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Posted by Jeroen on June 12, 2005, at 10:42:07
In reply to Re: Zyprexa TRIAL » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on June 12, 2005, at 7:54:08
There has never been a definitive, validated and widely accepted treatment for TD. Dozens of drugs have been tested over the past 30 years with mixed results at best. The atypical antipsychotic clozapine has been reported to reverse persistent TD after 6-12 months, possibly through gradual "down-regulation" of supersensitive dopamine D2 receptors. Some preliminary reports suggest that other atypical antipsychotics may also help reverse TD.
Posted by ed_uk on June 12, 2005, at 11:03:30
In reply to reverse TD with clozaril, posted by Jeroen on June 12, 2005, at 10:42:07
Hi J!
I expect that Seroquel will be just as good as Clozaril for your TD :-) I definitely think you should give Seroquel a second chance before considering Clozaril. Clozaril is more sedating than Seroquel, regular blood tests are needed and serious side effects are more common.
Kind regards,
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on June 12, 2005, at 11:44:38
In reply to Re: reverse TD with clozaril » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on June 12, 2005, at 11:03:30
im just scared to get psychotic on seroquel
i heared people say this
its a shame Abilify, Zyprexa, Risperdal, geodon (evil) didnt help me at all...
why?
Posted by ed_uk on June 12, 2005, at 15:18:15
In reply to Re: reverse TD with clozaril, posted by Jeroen on June 12, 2005, at 11:44:38
Hi J,
>why?
I don't know, sometimes drugs in the same class have differences that are not well understood.
Kind regards,
Ed.
Posted by Phillipa on June 12, 2005, at 16:27:23
In reply to Re: reverse TD with clozaril » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on June 12, 2005, at 15:18:15
Jeroen, I agree with Ed. If you tell the doctor how the high dose seroquel made you feel and that lower doses didn't cause this he will probably Rx it this way. Wait on the Clozaril. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Jeroen on June 14, 2005, at 11:57:56
In reply to Re: reverse TD with clozaril, posted by Phillipa on June 12, 2005, at 16:27:23
my heart racing, i was at a store,
im 3 weeks on 20mg zyprexa with no improvement at all.
im going to ask a doctor for advice on starting the seroquel
Posted by ed_uk on June 14, 2005, at 14:39:22
In reply to i had another attack again, posted by Jeroen on June 14, 2005, at 11:57:56
Hi J,
It sounds like you had another panic (anxiety) attack. Tranxene can be helpful for panic attacks but you might still have them occasionally. Get checked out by your doctor for other causes of a racing heart. I hope your psych doctor will let you try Seroquel :-)
Kind regards,
Ed.
Posted by Phillipa on June 14, 2005, at 18:33:48
In reply to Panic » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on June 14, 2005, at 14:39:22
Guess you're out of the hospital. i hope he'll let you try it too. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Jeroen on June 18, 2005, at 2:28:38
In reply to Re: Panic, posted by Phillipa on June 14, 2005, at 18:33:48
just came out of hospital for weekend home
i discussed seroquel with my doctor, we will propably change
i am 4 weeks on zyprexa with low improvement in blinking and my mental disorder is worsei taught zyprexa would make me feel good :(
Posted by Jeroen on June 18, 2005, at 2:58:47
In reply to Re: Panic, posted by Phillipa on June 14, 2005, at 18:33:48
im also taking lecithin for 9 days now, my eye muscle twitches havent stopped
Posted by Jeroen on June 18, 2005, at 9:55:01
In reply to Re: SEROQUEL, posted by Jeroen on June 18, 2005, at 9:50:53
i am stuck with a question, someone told me my pupils of my eye are big
ive read something geodon is causing this, well im off the drug and I ThINK I HAVE IT, BECAUSE SOMEONE TOLD ME
any ideas?
Posted by Jeroen on June 18, 2005, at 10:07:36
In reply to my eyes, posted by Jeroen on June 18, 2005, at 9:55:01
i ment pupil dilation in my previous post
Posted by Jeroen on June 18, 2005, at 10:18:29
In reply to Re: my eyes - update, posted by Jeroen on June 18, 2005, at 10:07:36
ive just read on a website that medication can make someone psychotic. read here again GEODON CAUSED IT WITH A PERSON!!!!!
http://www.pmulcahy.com/misc_pages/my_thoughts_on_mental_illness.html
seroquel makes me feel good but what about the psychotic thing i experienced with it? propably because i took it only once a day
The Geodon made me psychotic. Hallucinations were more severe than ever, paranoia was extreme, and with what little was left of my sanity, I stopped the medication cold turkey, and refused to see the doctor. As the paranoia subsided, I eventually saw Dr. Penny again, and he put me on what I am on now, a combination of Risperdal and Celexa. The Risperdal is sedating only to a slightly lesser degree than the Loxitane, and I generally sleep 12-14 hours a day. The Celexa caused gas and cramps the first month I took it, but then went away. My weight (I lost the additional 50 pounds within 3 months after stopping the Valproic Acid), I put on 9 pounds, but now my weight has stabilized.
Posted by ed_uk on June 18, 2005, at 10:43:14
In reply to my eyes, posted by Jeroen on June 18, 2005, at 9:55:01
Hi J,
>ive read something geodon is causing this, well im off the drug and I ThINK I HAVE IT, BECAUSE SOMEONE TOLD ME
You haven't taken any Geodon for a long time. I don't think its the cause. I suppose it's a possibility though. I don't know...
~Ed
Posted by ed_uk on June 18, 2005, at 10:45:45
In reply to URGENT - GEODON V.S SEROQUEL, posted by Jeroen on June 18, 2005, at 10:18:29
Hi J,
>seroquel makes me feel good but what about the psychotic thing i experienced with it? propably because i took it only once a day
Did it cause hallucinations, delusions or paranoia?
~Ed
Posted by Jeroen on June 18, 2005, at 11:01:35
In reply to Re: URGENT - GEODON V.S SEROQUEL » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on June 18, 2005, at 10:45:45
hallucinations, but only at the start taking it
but im scared man, this aint funny anymore. if seroquel makes me psychotic instead of good then my doctor will put me in a closed department at the hospital i think
lets see how it ends...
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 18, 2005, at 11:14:35
In reply to DAY 9 LECITHIN, posted by Jeroen on June 18, 2005, at 2:58:47
> im also taking lecithin for 9 days now
Sorry to interrupt, but I'd like to redirect follow-ups regarding lecithin to Psycho-Babble Alternative. Here's a link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20050612/msgs/514898.html
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by ed_uk on June 18, 2005, at 11:20:21
In reply to Re: URGENT - GEODON V.S SEROQUEL, posted by Jeroen on June 18, 2005, at 11:01:35
Hi J,
What sort of hallucinations did you have when you were taking Seroquel??
~Ed
Posted by Jeroen on June 18, 2005, at 11:20:27
In reply to Re: URGENT - GEODON V.S SEROQUEL, posted by Jeroen on June 18, 2005, at 11:01:35
hi, we were discussing seroquel and geodon not lecithin (before)
Posted by Jeroen on June 18, 2005, at 11:25:54
In reply to SEROQUEL » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on June 18, 2005, at 11:20:21
i saw on the wall a face appearing
but only at the beginning taking seroquel, i had no more of them when i started to feel better
i am schizoaffective disorder since i was 14 years old, i self diagnozed me
Posted by ed_uk on June 18, 2005, at 14:25:15
In reply to Re: SEROQUEL, posted by Jeroen on June 18, 2005, at 11:25:54
Hi J!
>but only at the beginning taking seroquel, i had no more of them when i started to feel better........
Well that's a good sign at least. What did your doc say about this?
>i am schizoaffective disorder since i was 14 years old, i self diagnozed me
Does your doc agree?
~Ed
Posted by Phillipa on June 18, 2005, at 18:07:17
In reply to Re: SEROQUEL » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on June 18, 2005, at 14:25:15
Hi Jeroen, A lot has been discussed today. As usual I defer to Ed as he's the expert. All I can do is add support and ask what does your doctor say your diagnosis is? Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Jeroen on June 19, 2005, at 2:33:10
In reply to Re: SEROQUEL, posted by Phillipa on June 18, 2005, at 18:07:17
no i taught i hear voices but i dont
then he gave me diagnosis of schizophrenia
i was confused because a girl told me she heared voices so i taught i had it too so i told my doc.bad idea, anyway i live with the damage what geodon has done to me
Posted by Jeroen on June 19, 2005, at 2:36:22
In reply to Re: SEROQUEL, posted by Jeroen on June 19, 2005, at 2:33:10
addon, i do have paranoia
zyprexa, abilify, geodon, risperdal makes my paranoia a hell, the seroquel makes is less
Posted by ed_uk on June 19, 2005, at 10:39:51
In reply to Re: SEROQUEL, posted by Jeroen on June 19, 2005, at 2:36:22
Hi J :-)
>no i taught i hear voices but i dont.......
Have you ever heard voices?
>addon, i do have paranoia
Hopefully the Seroquel will help the paranoia. Tell me what you decide to do :-)
Kind regards,
Ed.
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