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Posted by headachegirl on April 18, 2004, at 9:06:14
In reply to Re: THE GOOD THINGS?????-Sira, posted by Angela Young on April 17, 2004, at 22:10:22
I think trial and error is the process for finding the right AD. I experienced the best results from Prozac with the usual number of side effects. I was tired of the non-existent libido and tried the Effexor to see if I had better results. I really didn't, though I was on 75 mg and don't know if increasing the does would've helped.
I did notice, however, the awful consequences of missing a dose. I would be slammed by the brain zaps, headaches, and nausea. I work in the high tech industry and can often do 12-14 hours in front of the computer for days at a time. Things like rembering to refill your prescription would fall between the cracks and the resulting almost immediate withdrawal effects made work miserable.
Plus, I was experiencing the elevated BP and weight gain. So, I'm taking myself off. I think the key to this (as well as with any other AD) is to wean off, not go cold turkey. Reducing my dose over several weeks, while taking extra supplements has almost totally prevented withdrawal symptoms.
So, everyone is different. If Effexor works for you, stay with it. If you decide you need to get off; don't go cold turkey. My advice.
Posted by Emma Smith on April 18, 2004, at 20:39:07
In reply to Re: How long for these withdrawals to end??Emma, posted by Angela Young on April 17, 2004, at 22:17:43
"Smith" is my married name..... Sorry! :)
That really would have been something, huh?? :)
Posted by alanis on April 18, 2004, at 23:27:21
In reply to Re: How long for these withdrawals to end??Emma, posted by Emma Smith on April 18, 2004, at 20:39:07
I am now on a low calorie diet to try to get off the pounds of the weight gain effexor and I am glad to report I have lost 5 pounds. I also stopped taking straterra,. Has anyone gained weight from adhd meds. Is the weight gain from the meds or from the side effect of increased appetite? That is what I want to know.
Posted by Shyla on April 19, 2004, at 8:45:38
In reply to Re: sexual side effect- effexor-xr, posted by invisiblemanpa on April 18, 2004, at 5:33:19
> Hmm Interesting, and I thought just my penis was going numb....this is a very clear connection with effexor and sexual side effects...I used to think about it all the time and get a rise every time an attractive lady walked by....now nothing...the addition of Wellbutrin has done little do help.......good luck....wish I had a suggestion....the TV ads are all BS!
Not very heartening news, I'm afraid. But thanks for your input.
Posted by ku4ns on April 19, 2004, at 12:11:39
In reply to Re: About to go off..... Advice please! » Viva, posted by msdepres on April 17, 2004, at 11:51:55
I am three weeks out from my last dose effexor and this is my second attempt at stopping the drug. My first attempt stopping failed because of improper weaning, this time I used prozac to help. I have not had any of the problems that I experienced previously while trying to stop. I feel as normal as I ever have thanks to prozac. I hope this post will help others that are trying deal with the effects of effexor. I was on the drug for a little over a year. John
Posted by linda-may on April 19, 2004, at 14:41:01
In reply to Anyone had success on Effexor XR? , posted by jp on October 24, 1999, at 14:59:14
have been taking effexor for 1 1/2 years. started on 37.5.. gradually increased to 225. had palpitations and sleeplessness at first.then all good. then positives would start to "wane" and got increased prescriptions. i totally love the dreams. they're amazing. my friends think it's hilarious.. when i say.. "effexor RULES". i've not had any problems with drinking while i take it-lately lack of libido and some mood swings. checking with dr in 2 days.am fully aware to WEAN off, should i choose to stop.
Posted by Zarry on April 19, 2004, at 15:51:07
In reply to STOPPING Effexor made easy, posted by ku4ns on April 19, 2004, at 12:11:39
All of this is fine to counteract the affects of Effexor by adding another AD to it - but what some ppl have a prob with is wanting to not go on anything else - it's like wanting to quit ciggies when you smoke Camels and switch to Marlboros.
I've finished my 2nd week w/o Effexor and I still have my mood swings and "rain stick" in my head. Knowing that it will eventually end is the only thing getting me thru it all.
I'm NOT going to go on anymore ADs and finally, my BP has gone down - not completely to where it should be, but it's progress.
Posted by cobwebs on April 19, 2004, at 16:25:30
In reply to Re: STOPPING Effexor made easy, posted by Zarry on April 19, 2004, at 15:51:07
I gained weight while on Effexor and I am one week off of it. I called my doctor today because I am feeling "hung-over" and "cobwebby". She said this is normal and to hang in there because I have another couple of weeks of feeling this way. I am wondering if anyone has lost weight after they stopped taking Effexor.
Posted by Zarry on April 19, 2004, at 16:28:51
In reply to Re: STOPPING Effexor made easy, posted by cobwebs on April 19, 2004, at 16:25:30
I just finished week 2 and haven't lost weight yet, but then lots of things have happened during those 2 weeks - lost my job, visited my dysfunctional family, going thru the withdrawals, mood swings.
It depends on why you're getting off Effexor as to how to handle the withdrawals. Some ppl just go to another one. I personally am not going to take any other AD.
Posted by cobwebs on April 19, 2004, at 16:38:50
In reply to Re: STOPPING Effexor made easy, posted by Zarry on April 19, 2004, at 16:28:51
> I just finished week 2 and haven't lost weight yet, but then lots of things have happened during those 2 weeks - lost my job, visited my dysfunctional family, going thru the withdrawals, mood swings.
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> It depends on why you're getting off Effexor as to how to handle the withdrawals. Some ppl just go to another one. I personally am not going to take any other AD.Ooh man...Great. I am getting off Effexor because I think it was just a bandaid for me. Now, I need to really dig deep into what is going on with me. I don't think medication is the answer for me anymore.
You stay strong!!!!
Posted by alanis on April 19, 2004, at 19:23:32
In reply to Re: STOPPING Effexor made easy, posted by Zarry on April 19, 2004, at 16:28:51
> I just finished week 2 and haven't lost weight yet, but then lots of things have happened during those 2 weeks - lost my job, visited my dysfunctional family, going thru the withdrawals, mood swings.
>
> It depends on why you're getting off Effexor as to how to handle the withdrawals. Some ppl just go to another one. I personally am not going to take any other AD.The first time that I got off effexor I did not shed the weight like I wanted to. I did lose some but only thru diet and excersise. Unfortunately mine did not drop off. I am still struggling with the weight issue since I was a size 0 and now I am a 7. I know that still sounds thin but not on a 5'2 person. I am really going to work out and eat right before I try to quit AD.
Posted by calico cat on April 19, 2004, at 19:55:55
In reply to Re: Efferox side effects(In reply to everyone!), posted by Mikeyqld on March 12, 2003, at 19:38:04
I feel much better after reading that I am not alone in effexor withdrawal hell. I am in the process of weaning off 75mg of Effexor (have been on for a year and a half) to go on Wellbutrin. I have been taking both for about a month. These past 5 days I went from 75mg effexor to 50 mg with terrible headaches and malaise. It is truly awful, but I want to feel good again; the effexor just was not working any more. I am going to the doctor on Weds. so if you have any ideas that worked for you, please let me know.
Thanks to all of you for your support.
Posted by Stryker88 on April 20, 2004, at 6:56:54
In reply to Re: Efferox side effects when weaning, posted by calico cat on April 19, 2004, at 19:55:55
recovery from Effexor sounds like it needs a 12 step program and total recovery. Being hooked and craving a drug that is supposed to be safe is tough
Posted by linda-may on April 20, 2004, at 7:27:16
In reply to Re: Efferox side effects when weaning, posted by Stryker88 on April 20, 2004, at 6:56:54
am wondering why people have such a hard time weaning off? it seems to me that in many cases, people try to stop "cold turkey" - and THEN go back on and start weaning..or just don't seem to have the "weaning" method down pat. i know a number of people who have taken effexor and weaned OFF effexor, with good success and minimal negative effects?? hmmm...
Posted by Zarry on April 20, 2004, at 8:21:41
In reply to Re: Efferox side effects when weaning, posted by linda-may on April 20, 2004, at 7:27:16
Most of the people here in the posts have stated they have been weaning, but don't state what happens after 37.5 mg. Maybe the people you know took other ADs along with weaning off w/o many side effects.
If I recall, I'm the only one that has gone cold turkey - from 75mg to 0.
Another possibility of your thoughts is that people have different intolerance levels - my definition of hell could be normal to someone else.
Posted by calico cat on April 20, 2004, at 11:29:33
In reply to Re: Efferox side effects when weaning, posted by Zarry on April 20, 2004, at 8:21:41
> Most of the people here in the posts have stated they have been weaning, but don't state what happens after 37.5 mg. Maybe the people you know took other ADs along with weaning off w/o many side effects.
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> If I recall, I'm the only one that has gone cold turkey - from 75mg to 0.
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> Another possibility of your thoughts is that people have different intolerance levels - my definition of hell could be normal to someone else.Response from Calico Cat: I did try going from 75 mg. effexor to 150mg. wellbutrin. Disaster - I felt like I would pass out and outcontrolled sobbing. That's why I am back to square one - 75 mg. effexor (now down to 50mg.) while on 150 mg. wellbutrin. I just have very bad headaches, and the malaise is better - this is day 4 on 50 mg. I just feel like I trusted my doctor when I went on the effexor - "this is what I give all my old lady patients, and they love it." Had I known that this was a life-time commitment, I might have asked for another drug. I never realized how hard the withdrawal was. I think it's great you went from 75mg. to 0. I just couldn't do it. I feel like it is a weakness I have for effexor or is it total dependence? I guess my mind is still in the process of recovering.
Posted by Zarry on April 20, 2004, at 11:45:33
In reply to Re: Efferox side effects when weaning, posted by calico cat on April 20, 2004, at 11:29:33
Calico Cat, I think ADs are being treated like Valium was in the 70s - give 'em something to shut them up and make 'em happy.
I'm not saying we don't have a chemical imbalance, but some could do with just a mild AD instead of something so strong.
With my elevated BP, I really didn't have a choice but go from 75 to 0 - thankfully after 2 wks, it's getting a bit more near the normal range.
Good luck with your battle.
Posted by ku4ns on April 20, 2004, at 13:23:41
In reply to Re: Efferox side effects when weaning, posted by Zarry on April 20, 2004, at 11:45:33
My reason for stopping the effexor was that I had an increased heartrate (100)even while resting. Now that I am off the effexor and on prozac my rate is back to around 70. I intend to stop the prozac but had started it to help with stopping the effexor. I experienced a migraine while weaning the effexor and some of the other common side effects, so my physician suggested using the prozac to help in the process. I feel normal again except for decreased libido. John
Posted by Zarry on April 20, 2004, at 13:29:19
In reply to Re: Efferox side effects when weaning, posted by ku4ns on April 20, 2004, at 13:23:41
Since I'm entering week 3 of getting off Effexor, I've had more interest in sex and my BP has decreased. The negatives are that my husband seems to be wanting to pick fights, or maybe it's that I'm more aware of his conversations. I was basically emotionless during my time on "happy" pills. If I can make it thru this period, I don't don't believe I will EVER go back on anything.
As one person stated, they want to learn how to deal with what's bothering them instead of covering it up with $$ to the drug companies. Not the exact words, but still the same thing.
I do believe that "happy" pills are needed, but I think the doctors need to be a bit more knowledgeable with the drugs the prescribe.
Posted by calico cat on April 20, 2004, at 16:55:48
In reply to Re: Efferox side effects when weaning, posted by Zarry on April 20, 2004, at 13:29:19
To Zarry and others:
Thanks so much for writing to me. I felt like I was the only one who was suffering and to have company, is very reassuring. This need to wean is still unbelievable to me. Is Wellbutrin a drug that causes a person to have similar side affects? I still can't believe that I need to take another pill to get off effexor.
My doctor's appointment is tomorrow afternoon, and I intend to tell him all I have learned. He must have known about this type of reaction, but didn't tell me about the possibility. I have spent the last three weeks thinking I was losing my mind. I'm still in shock over the whole situation as you can tell. Thanks again.
Posted by Spinxxie on April 20, 2004, at 17:21:50
In reply to Re: STOPPING Effexor made easy, posted by cobwebs on April 19, 2004, at 16:38:50
I just wanted to interject that it is also alright to take AD's, unfortunately some of us have to take them, and to go without could be life threatening.. Good luck to those who can go without.. and hang in there to those who take them, keep your chins up!!! Spinxxie
Posted by Mina on April 20, 2004, at 20:22:20
In reply to Re: STOPPING Effexor made easy, posted by Spinxxie on April 20, 2004, at 17:21:50
Just thought I'd share my experiance lately while trying to wean. Of course, when I tried the way my doc. said to wean off, I went nuts after 2 days of stopping 37.5 since there wasn't anything lower than that to go on. So I've been counting the tiny beads for the last few weeks and it's more tolerable but I'm still so much more angry and easily irritable. (I just put it on a spoonful of applesause). Anywho...it'll be nice once I'm completely freed of this stuff in my system. Until recently I was thinking I just gained 15 pounds because I was eating junk but I'm thinking effexor triggered some sort of nervousness or something to make me hungrier for crap.
Good luck to us all!
Posted by katalina on April 20, 2004, at 22:15:56
In reply to STOPPING Effexor made easy, posted by ku4ns on April 19, 2004, at 12:11:39
Last year, I also used Prozac (only 10 mgs.) to wean myself off of 75 mgs (the lowest I went, after being at 150) and I experienced absolutely no side effects whatsoever (I did have se's when I tried to go every other day on the 75's or even splitting the capsules a couple of times.
Once you take prozac for a couple of weeks, which I did, I discontinued the prozac with no problems at all. Due it's very long half life compared to Effexor, there are usually no withdrawal symptoms from prozac.
Since that time I was SSRI free for six months and then decided to try lexapro, which did not impress me at all and tapered that pretty quickly after a 3 month run. I haven't taken an SSRI for over six months and feel good on my current regimen of Adderall XR and klonopin, along with some good vitamins. I am surprised at my ability to still feel good without an SSRI.
I just wanted to clarify that I think the original poster meant that prozac can be used to wean off the Effexor and then within a month (usually less) one can stop Prozac cold turkey without problems.
Effexor was an amazing drug for me for a while, I just found it to be too much with the Adderall, which is the mainstay of my treatment. I lost a ton of weight and felt jittery on both of them together. Now that I'm just on Adderall I feel less hyper and fidgety than I did when I was on both.
Just my 2 cents! But prozac worked wonders for withdrawals from Effexor!
Katie
Posted by Angela Young on April 20, 2004, at 23:13:16
In reply to Re: THE GOOD THINGS?????-Sira, posted by Angela Young on April 17, 2004, at 22:10:22
I just thought that I would post my opinions about prozac. I have been on it for about 4 months since the birth of my son. I am majoring in psychology and have been looking into every antidepressant I have ever been on. I know that Prozac may be helpful to wean off effexor, but I wouldn't suggest being on it full time. In '95 alone 2500 sucides were related to Prozac. Plus it can also cause almost mania episodes. I know cause it has been doing that to me. I am in the process of trying to get my doctor to switch me back to effexor.
Posted by Spinxxie on April 21, 2004, at 0:55:52
In reply to Prozac is the only way to go, posted by katalina on April 20, 2004, at 22:15:56
From what I have read.. taking a SSRI with effexor can be dangerous.. please take caution.. just my two cents
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