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Posted by Doctor Feel Good on March 5, 2004, at 17:56:59
In reply to Should I begin the weaning process?, posted by Emma Smith on March 4, 2004, at 21:59:57
Exercise. Alot of gyms with give you a free trainer for signing up, who can discuss better eating. Working out, and eating good food every 2-3 hours is proven to make someone more lean. i.e. piece of chicken, scoop of rice, generous portion of veggies.
> I'm very new to taking antidepressants, as Effexor XR is the only one I have taken. I take it for anxiety and mild depression. I believe the depression stemmed from a lot of stressors and life changes. I had thoughts of suicide and overall irratibility as well as "anxiety attacks". My doctor started me on Effexor XR (I'm now taking 75mg) back in July 2003.
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> In the beginning, I felt wonderful. It was as if I finally had my life back. With such a supportive husband and two wonderful young children, I really wanted to be myself again. Of course I want to be "drug-free", so I wonder when I should try life without Effexor. My life has changed a lot in the last 6 months. Great changes. A feel a lot more stable than I ever have been. The doctor said he would like to see me on the drug 9 months and then we would talk.
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> However.....I feel this drug has contributed to a weight gain that I DO NOT want!! I'm looking for opinions as to what would be a good way to taper off of this drug. Honestly, some of the stories terrify me. I was thinking of starting to take the dose every other day for awhile. Is this a good place to start?
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> Thanks so much for any advice you have!
Posted by Doctor Feel Good on March 5, 2004, at 18:02:16
In reply to Re: hypomania, posted by Spinxxie on March 4, 2004, at 22:22:12
I wish you the best of luck. Antidepressants are a good choice when the upside is better than the downside. So, like you have stated, I'd rather be happy than gain some weight. I can't imagine anyone sacrificing happiness which is healthy and guarantees a better and easier world to live in, versus less weight, miserable. Less weight and depression will kill ya quicker :) You hit the nail on the head. Plus anyone (unless physically injured) can exercise to lose, or keep off additional pounds. Getting a nutionist/trainer at a gym is the best. Sooo many people don't realize that even a quick walk combined with eating delicious good food at 3 hour intervals, will make you increase your metabolism, you just need to find out your BMI and have a nutitionist give you samples of scheduled eating, and a trainer to show you the best way to shed fat.
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 6, 2004, at 0:05:03
In reply to Re: Doctor Feel Good, posted by Thankful on March 3, 2004, at 1:03:02
> Where did you go to medical school?
I think this is a good question. Are you really a doctor? If you'd rather reply by email, that's fine. Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Spinxxie on March 6, 2004, at 1:49:51
In reply to Re: hypomania » Spinxxie, posted by Doctor Feel Good on March 5, 2004, at 18:02:16
I agree.. if you can do some excercise GO for it! I have chronic back pain.. but I want to work on that as well... I am having one of those days where I had a hard time getting out of bed.. oy.. it can only get better, right?
Posted by Doctor Feel Good on March 6, 2004, at 3:56:45
In reply to Re: medical school » Doctor Feel Good, posted by Dr. Bob on March 6, 2004, at 0:05:03
It's funny you ask that. I have not gone to medical school, I am working on my masters in clin. psych, and cinched my psychopharm class, and all my other classes. I am plannning to attend school in spring 2005 for my PhD in the same field and applying for the licensure exam. I find it funny doc because I've been thinking of changing my name to avoid misunderstandings. In the past on this board I have mentioned I was not a doctor, and usually recommend people check with their doc first. I've also been thinking of having an automatic disclaimer or explanation of what level of school I am at, like APA Code of Ethics. I am wondering what you would suggest? I am glad you asked. I was quite surprised the administrator of this board (you)contacted me.
> > Where did you go to medical school?
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> I think this is a good question. Are you really a doctor? If you'd rather reply by email, that's fine. Thanks,
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> Bob
Posted by Doctor Feel Good on March 6, 2004, at 3:59:33
In reply to Re: hypomania » Doctor Feel Good, posted by Spinxxie on March 6, 2004, at 1:49:51
Well I couldn't tell ya , but you have the right attitude. Have a specialist look at your back. Perhaps they can give you some specific stretches or exercises to gradually build your back up. Good luck
> I agree.. if you can do some excercise GO for it! I have chronic back pain.. but I want to work on that as well... I am having one of those days where I had a hard time getting out of bed.. oy.. it can only get better, right?
Posted by TomNC on March 6, 2004, at 9:30:20
In reply to Re: hypomania » Spinxxie, posted by Doctor Feel Good on March 6, 2004, at 3:59:33
I started taking Effexor XR two weeks ago. First week 35mg, now almost a week at 75. Taking it once a day. I am feeling beginning to feel better. Had a few crazy dreams a couple of nights.
What I would like to know is if anyone else is having issues with constent slight shaking or trembling of your hands? I host alot of business meetings and others are noticing the papers I hold shaking. Anyone else have this happen? Does it go away in time?
Posted by Spinxxie on March 6, 2004, at 15:44:34
In reply to Re: hypomania / SHAKING?, posted by TomNC on March 6, 2004, at 9:30:20
I haven't had any shakes yet, I started at 75mgs, because I was going through Zoloft withdrawals and some nasty depression. I will let you know though. I am on buspar as well, and damn my memory has really been shot.. but that is another thread.. lol
Posted by effexed on March 6, 2004, at 17:51:15
In reply to Re: hypomania / SHAKING?, posted by TomNC on March 6, 2004, at 9:30:20
I had a lot of shaking when I first got on this med I looked like I was feening or something I got a lot of stares to so if you have to just let your coworkers know you are on something you dont have to go in to details if your not wanting any one to know about your personal stuff or ask questions just say your on something for sinus that gives me the shakes to so moast people woant think twice anyway you will probably have dry mouth and a hard time sleeping for the first few weeks but yes this will pass and you will hopefully start feeling good again I have been on 75s for 9wks now and feel great my DR wanted to up me to 150 but I will stay at 75 for now hope
this helpsCINDY in TX
Posted by Spinxxie on March 6, 2004, at 18:32:28
In reply to Re: hypomania / SHAKING?, posted by effexed on March 6, 2004, at 17:51:15
yikes! I haven't had the shakes.. but I have noticed headaches and spins.. I know they will go away.. anyone get really tired when they were first on it?
Posted by Malka on March 7, 2004, at 0:45:52
In reply to Re: hypomania / SHAKING?, posted by effexed on March 6, 2004, at 17:51:15
Can anyone tell me how long the side effects last for? I have been taking it for 5 days and whilst I haven't felt any positive effects yet I am feeling nauseous, light-headed and tired all the time and am constantly hungry although can't eat some foods coz of the nausea. I am considering stopping taking it coz am fed up of being this zombie!!
Posted by Spinxxie on March 7, 2004, at 1:39:19
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR?, posted by Malka on March 7, 2004, at 0:45:52
I am on day 6 - don't give up ! Like most of thses drugs, it takes time! OMG I have wanted to graze..I have my stomach stapled so I can't thankfully, but I can't stop eating those crispy mini rice cakes. As far as I know it is a couple of weeks before things settle down.. give it a chance.. hugs Spinxxie
Posted by jacques on March 7, 2004, at 12:19:01
In reply to Re: Sudden descent into Efexor hell, posted by shadows721 on January 19, 2004, at 19:48:54
Has anyone experienced constant scratching on Efexor? My back is torn apart from scratching since I started it.
Posted by Spinxxie on March 7, 2004, at 16:39:15
In reply to constant scratching, posted by jacques on March 7, 2004, at 12:19:01
IMHO I think you have an allergy, consult your pharmacist and Dr regarding this - yikes.. have you tried benedryl or anything like that to ease it? Sorry to hear of your woes.. tc Spinzzie
Posted by Sad Panda on March 8, 2004, at 5:11:54
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR? » Malka, posted by Spinxxie on March 7, 2004, at 1:39:19
Hi All,
I am still doing OK on Effexor. It has done a great deal for me, I can talk to people about my problems, I feel more sociable, I feel I am moving up & best of all is I don't feel so worthless anymore. :) I am going to the docs tomorrow to ask for increase from 225mg to 300mg to help with drive & motivation.
Cheers,
Panda.
Posted by Skorpius60 on March 8, 2004, at 8:12:38
In reply to bizarre dreams, posted by bluestar on March 21, 2003, at 13:01:40
Yes, I too, have had very weird and vivid dreams (I take 75 mg. Effexor XR a day) The weirdest one was about a curly haired (prehistoric type) baby elephant walking through my house opening the doors with his nose! lol Also, I have come to the realization that I don't think I can drink on Effexor. Once I start drinking I seem to lose all sense of moderation, end up drinking way too much, immediately start vomiting (not the next day, same night) and then I pass out, with very vague recollections of the previous night. And then I feel like I want to die for 2 or 3 days afterwards. And another weird thing is that my whole body feels like it's been run over by a semitruck -- even my skin seems to hurt -- never had that as part of a hangover before Effexor. But as far as my depression, the Effexor has helped tremendously (before I started on it I wouldn't leave the house, wouldn't come my hair for days on end, didn't clean, didn't cook, I was just a mess, so I guess if I have to quit drinking so be it. Or if I can manage to just have one or two glasses of wine or a mixed drink without going bananas that would be great, too. But that's where the biggest problem seems to be -- I have a glass or two and then it's like I'm a teenager again -- no sense whatsoever. Oh, and I read a thread about hot flashes/night sweats -- I've been getting that, too, but I also had it (although not as bad) before the Effexor. I can't remember if the post was written by a man or woman, but if it was a woman it could just be perimenopause or menopause starting to kick in and maybe Effexor exacerbates those symptoms. I think that's what's going on with me. So, anyhow, I am so glad I found this website. And I would love to hear from anybody else about drinking and Effexor. Thanks!
> Since I started taking effexor, I've been haved a series of incredibly vivid and strange dreams. Is anyone else experiencing this too? It seems like I'm in a constant dream state when asleep. I guess that's due to not sleeping deeply. The weirdest one yet was about talking to cheetahs and eating live eels.
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 8, 2004, at 8:57:53
In reply to Re: medical school » Dr. Bob, posted by Doctor Feel Good on March 6, 2004, at 3:56:45
> I've been thinking of changing my name to avoid misunderstandings.
I think that would be best. Here are the steps involved:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#names
Thanks for being flexible,
Bob
Posted by PoohBear on March 8, 2004, at 9:40:03
In reply to Re: bizarre dreams, drinking on effexor, sweats, posted by Skorpius60 on March 8, 2004, at 8:12:38
Ya know...
Most pharmacies put a little label on the bottle that says something to the effect of "Avoid Alcohol" when taking Effexor (or any other antidepressant for that matter...) It's just *not* a good idea, nor very smart. I'm glad that all you suffered was the mother of all hang-overs, and not something worse. People die doing stuff like that... The label the pharmacy put on my Wellbutrin prescription said: "Do not use alcohol while taking this medication, may cause DEATH". I'm not making this up.
As for night sweats, these drugs *do* seem to mess up one's body temperature regulation. I woke up the other night, my side of the bed was *SOAKED* with sweat and when I got up to use the bathroom, the sweat was literally *dripping* off me as I stood there taking a leak. VERY weird, and definitely *NOT* something I've ever experienced in my life, short of when I've been sick and had a fever break. I can't attribute it to the Effexor however. It could just as well have bee the Seroquel.
Good luck and please avoid drinking. The risk is just not worth it while on these drugs.
Tony
Posted by Skorpius60 on March 8, 2004, at 10:05:41
In reply to Re: bizarre dreams, drinking on effexor, sweats » Skorpius60, posted by PoohBear on March 8, 2004, at 9:40:03
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Thanks Tony, for the info. I never knew that about Wellbutrin either -- and I was on it for years and drank -- and I never had one of those notices put on my bottle -- wish I had!!! Also, my doctors have never mentioned I shouldn't drink, either with the Wellbutrin or the Effexor. I think when I go see my doctor again I will let her know what happened to me so that she can counsel other patients to not drink and take Effexor either. Thank God nothing happened to me but a hangover. And so it also seems the worsening of my sweats is NOT just my menopause -- from your post ("standing to take a leak" :) you are not a female. Yee Hah for me -- now I get to break out with these sweats due to 2 causes instead of one. Oh, well, better than being depressed, that's for damn sure! Joan> Most pharmacies put a little label on the bottle that says something to the effect of "Avoid Alcohol" when taking Effexor (or any other antidepressant for that matter...) It's just *not* a good idea, nor very smart. I'm glad that all you suffered was the mother of all hang-overs, and not something worse. People die doing stuff like that... The label the pharmacy put on my Wellbutrin prescription said: "Do not use alcohol while taking this medication, may cause DEATH". I'm not making this up.
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> As for night sweats, these drugs *do* seem to mess up one's body temperature regulation. I woke up the other night, my side of the bed was *SOAKED* with sweat and when I got up to use the bathroom, the sweat was literally *dripping* off me as I stood there taking a leak. VERY weird, and definitely *NOT* something I've ever experienced in my life, short of when I've been sick and had a fever break. I can't attribute it to the Effexor however. It could just as well have bee the Seroquel.
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> Good luck and please avoid drinking. The risk is just not worth it while on these drugs.
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> Tony
Posted by jacques on March 8, 2004, at 12:59:15
In reply to Re: constant scratching » jacques, posted by Spinxxie on March 7, 2004, at 16:39:15
Thanks. Been to the doc, scratching he said is not from Efexor. I am on it some months and it wouldn't have lasted too long. It is wonderfully reassuring to read other peoples symptoms and know I am not alone. The sweating is most horrible on Efexor. It feels like hot flushes they describe in Menopause and can attack any time during the day. The evening is a nightmare. I often wake up in a lather of sweat. At least I know that it is the Efexor causing it. Thank you all of you!
Posted by Spinxxie on March 8, 2004, at 21:26:49
In reply to Re: bizarre dreams, drinking on effexor, sweats, posted by Skorpius60 on March 8, 2004, at 8:12:38
I have been getting weird dreams too, though I am suprised because I have only been on it for a week. I have had my dose upped from 75, to 112.5 which I am happy about. I just want to be stable, and it has affected my relationship to the point we may split.. sad.. and bad timing, but it shows what the person is about. tc all Spinxxie
Posted by Salty_Dog on March 8, 2004, at 22:58:55
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR?, posted by newgirl on March 5, 2004, at 13:15:52
> Has anyone had success losing weight AFTER going off of Effexor XR? As a whole, Effexor XR worked for me. My depression is gone. I've gained weight, and lost my desire for sex, along with other side effects. This made me decide it was time to quit. I'm on day 2 with no Effexor - and I'm doing OK I guess. Aside from the dizziness, occassional nausea, hot/cold chills, it hasn't been nearly as bad as I feared. I'm just looking for hope that this weight will go away as quickly as it came.
Yes, I have had great success losing weight. I tappered down from 600mg Effexor XR to 150mg in two weeks. I had initially gained 20 lbs on Effexor XR, but, I have lost 60 lbs tapering down.
I now need a new wardrobe of cloths (XL > L) and I have had to add new knotches to my belt. Like every thing else Effexor XR effects every one differently (going on and off).Good luck
Posted by Salty_Dog on March 8, 2004, at 23:03:22
In reply to Re: hypomania » Spinxxie, posted by PoohBear on March 5, 2004, at 10:21:06
> > I guess people don't realize what ssri's are, they all affect brain chemistry.. so ya will get weird withdrawals.. but.. yeah.. I am trying to be patient, there are no miracles cures... just taking it one day at a time.. thanks so much for your support.. Spinxxie
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> No problem, and by the way, Effexor is NOT an SSRI; it's more of a modified tricyclic, working on BOTH seritonin and neopinephrine (as well as dopamine...)
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> Tony
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I believe they call it an SSNRI. The term tricyclic refers to the chemistry (Structure) of the compound not to what it affects.
Posted by Malka on March 8, 2004, at 23:48:50
In reply to Re: bizarre dreams, drinking on effexor, sweats » Skorpius60, posted by Spinxxie on March 8, 2004, at 21:26:49
I decided to stop taking Effexor as I couldn't cope with the side effects. Does anyone know of another drug that's in the same group i.e SSNRI or whatever it is, that doesn't have such extreme side effects? I've heard Celexa mentioned, any input would be welcome please!!
Posted by GradPsychStudent on March 9, 2004, at 2:36:17
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR?, posted by Malka on March 8, 2004, at 23:48:50
I don't know why Effexor was prescribed to you. It is possible to start with an SSRI like Celexa, Zoloft, Prozac, Lexapro, etc., and if you are having no luck, or are way to sleepy and drowsy for awhile, your doctor may prescribe Wellbutrin as an adjunt(combination) to it (for more motivation, less sleepiness). Definitely talk to your Doctor to see what he/she says. If anxiety was a major issue, it could be the reason you were given effexor, so your Doc may think of Buspar.
.-=GradPsychStudent=-. Formerly known as Doctor Feel Good/DFG
> I decided to stop taking Effexor as I couldn't cope with the side effects. Does anyone know of another drug that's in the same group i.e SSNRI or whatever it is, that doesn't have such extreme side effects? I've heard Celexa mentioned, any input would be welcome please!!
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