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Posted by Anjul on March 4, 2004, at 17:44:28
In reply to Re: Insominia--LynneDa » LynneDa, posted by Gator on March 4, 2004, at 15:22:26
Do either of you take a benzo at night? I was warned against taking Melatonin with my Klonapin by my pdoc.
I havent had a good night sleep since October. I take 1/4 mg Klonapin at night and wake up every hour usually. Nothing helps. Someone just suggested 7.5 mg Remeron at night. Have you heard of this combo? If this continues, I have to go off Lex, which I love. But having to choose between sleep and GAD w/depression really stinks! Anjul
Posted by sexylexy on March 4, 2004, at 18:10:48
In reply to Re: Sexylexy...How are you? » sexylexy, posted by want info on March 4, 2004, at 15:59:01
Hey Want Info (Im not sure of your name!)
I think we probably are a lot a like. I am 24 year old female. I have never had a problem with depression infact, I was always called the "strong one" when going though hard situations. I started taking Allese birth control pill and found myself becoming really sad. The summer was ending and I knew I would have to go back to Graduate school away from my friends, family and boyfriend. I continued to become sad and figured it was homesickness. I finally went home and the depression actually got worse because I expected it to be better. I was really irrational, almost broke up with my boyfriend because I thought that he was making me depressed. I thought about quiting school everything. I cried infront of my parents for the first time in yeaaaaaaaaaars. We have no history of depression so it made it really hard for them to understand. Finally, my dad suggeted I stopped the b/c pill because depression is a uncommon side effect. It was like with in two days I was back to my old self, happy as ever. I had this feeling for a little over a week then unexpectedly a friend died. I was all alone in this strange city when I wanted to be anywhere else. I started feeling sad then became so anxious that I would become depressed again. I went to the Dr. who gave me wellbutrin for my anxiety.. he must have graduated from the med school of stupidity. So I took one wellbutrin and shook in my bed for 24 hours. I then flew home, and was able to recover to about my old self. I was pretty good for about 3 weeks then got into a huge fight with my boyfriend. The sadness came back with lead this time to paralizying anxiety. I could not function b/c I was so anxious. At this point I started taking Zoloft which made my depression much worse. I stayed on for 3 weeks and was sooooo miserable. I then got on lexapro and started feeling improvement. I am doing ok now... just wanting to get the "me" I so loved back. I feel like I will win the war but am loosing a lot of battles in the mean time Mainly I have 0 self confidence, no pride in my many accomplishments and a higher sensitivity. I would love to hear your story, thanks for the note and support! God Bless!
LexyPS. PMDD is when about ten days before your period, you become a sad/anxious ball of hormones and it last till you start. It is one of the lovely things I have gotten from a stupid birth control pill !
Posted by simus on March 4, 2004, at 18:38:01
In reply to Re: Questions at 15mg or 20mg, posted by mrs c on March 4, 2004, at 15:25:25
I wouldn't think that alternating between 10 and 20 would be a good idea. Have you considered going to 15 for a week or so, or even 12.5 if you can break it that precisely? I have found that the side effects of increasing dosages isn't as traumatic as starting a new med. Good luck.
Posted by mystic on March 4, 2004, at 18:41:26
In reply to Re: Questions at 15mg or 20mg, posted by mrs c on March 4, 2004, at 15:25:25
Hey Mrs C....I'm with you...I think tomorrow my Dr will tell me to go up to 20mgs..I wanted to go to 15mg and he had said before that it wouldnt make a difference...I pray for you I know how hard it is to do it..and I'm here for you...Remember what you tell everyone else...We are always so full of advise and help with other people and have no compassion for ourselves..remember that and remember to take care of yourself...God Bless Mystic
Posted by wantinfo on March 4, 2004, at 18:42:54
In reply to Re: Sexylexy...How are you? want info, posted by sexylexy on March 4, 2004, at 18:10:48
hey again lexy! i feel the same way about my boyfriend too...he never does anything wrong and has been so supportive but sometimes i want to bite his head off. and then there are the times when i feel so unreal that it's almost like i dont know him at all, although of course i do.
when you say you were so anxious you couldnt function, what were your symptoms? mine are usually mainly the unreality as well as feeling shaky and lightheaded. im on 10mg lex now but am seeing my doc on the 18th...dont know if i need more. it is the beginning of the 4th week and im still not feeling like 'me.' im usually so outgoing and friendly...it's just so scary! i want to go back to myself :(
Posted by sexylexy on March 4, 2004, at 19:16:08
In reply to Re: Sexylexy...How are you? want info » sexylexy, posted by wantinfo on March 4, 2004, at 18:42:54
UGHHHH
When I was that anxious, it was like a 72 hour panic attack. I mean everything was bad... my heart was just filled with fear like I had never known possible, like breaking fear. I was also shaking, my mind was racing and all I could think of was negitiave thoughts. The zoloft was what I took, it calmed down my body some... When I have panic attacks, it like lightheaded feel like I am going to pass out and some un-reality. Most of my unreality almost high feeling came with lexapro, it went away thought after about 5 weeks.
Lexy
Posted by mystic on March 4, 2004, at 19:24:12
In reply to Re: Sexylexy...How are you? want info » wantinfo, posted by sexylexy on March 4, 2004, at 19:16:08
Hey Mrs. C...Lexy...K...Katherine...everyone...I hope everyone had a good day I know that Mrs C. is worried about the up in dosage..I'm with ya...My day was about the same as the rest of the week..I did take xanax before work...Mrs. C. I work for a dentist I'm an office manager and I'm not sure that you need to tell them you take Lexapro only if you want to let them know that you are anxious...It shouldnt interfere with anything you are having done...but if you would like I can ask my Dr. if he thinks it is something that needs to be known...Also I went to arobics tonight and I think that exercise makes me more depressed if that is possible..does anyone have that same effect when they exercise...I pray tomorrow if a better day for me and for everyone else...You are all in my prayers and I'm grateful you are all here...Thank...Mystic
Posted by mystic on March 4, 2004, at 19:30:57
In reply to Re: Questions at 15mg or 20mg » bluesfan, posted by LynneDa on March 4, 2004, at 13:29:54
Emily..I'm with you...I hope that this med works and that we all start to feel better soon..I have been on 10mgs for 4 weeks yesterday and I have a Drs appt tomorrow and think he will try to up my dosage which I really do not want to do..I have added xanax to the mix because he has wanted me to do it all along and I'm not getting any better so I finally agreed..supposed to take it 3 times a day I take it once a day in the morning and it seems to help...I pray for the day when I feel like my old self and I feel that I have invested this much time and I want to go on and see where it takes me but at the same time I'm afraid that this is never going to work and then were will I be starting something else and wasted all that time..But right now I have decided to keep going with it for as long as I can..I will keep you in my thoughts and hope and pray that we both make it to the other side of the darkness..and the anxiety subsides someday...Take care and you are in the right place..this is a great place for support..Mystic
Posted by johnray on March 4, 2004, at 19:35:58
In reply to Lexapro Dosing Info--My Doctor's Opinion, posted by meow mary on October 14, 2002, at 19:03:40
> I saw my doctor today. He said he's been getting a lot of disappointed responses from his patients who have been at 10mgs, and thinks there is a certain amount of "hype" about that dosage being effective--especially in the case of OCD where a higher dosage is usually required. He doubled my dosage, although he said it would be fine to start with 15 at first.
Fellow Lexapro users may find this interesting. I started on 10 mg. of Lex for severe anxiety and after four and a half weeks I felt like the anxiety was just modestly improved while the nausea and sexual side effets were very noticable. I had the strange feeling of being sleepy and anxious at the same time. My pdr said to go to 20 because most people who can tolerate 10 have no problem with the higher dose. When I got home I took another 5 mgs. intending to go up to 15 first and then 20.
In about an hour and a half I had a major anxiety attack that lasted around six hours. What I ended up doing was making a solution of one 20 mg. Lex tablet in 20 ml distilled water or saline and slowly raised my dose 1/2 mg. every few days. Even this was a bit touchy. I found that at 12 mgs. the anxiety started to noticably improve. I'm now at 13 mgs. and am just about fine. So it looks like small differences in dose can trans late into big differences in effect. I plan to use the Lex as cover so I can transition back to Imipramine without the start-up anxiety with that drug and slowly eliminate the Lex. No sex is no fun and fairly small doses of Imipramine will keep anxiety at tolerable levels. I plan to try Pregabalin at the earliest opportunity and hopefully use this to replace my clonazapam.
Posted by johnray on March 4, 2004, at 19:50:34
In reply to Lexapro Dosing Info--My Doctor's Opinion, posted by meow mary on October 14, 2002, at 19:03:40
There is, in my opinion, no posible way that 10 mgs. of Lex can be as effective as 200 mgs. of Zoloft as claimed in a Forrest Lab sponsored study.
Posted by mrs c on March 4, 2004, at 20:36:58
In reply to Re: Questions at 15mg or 20mg » mrs c, posted by simus on March 4, 2004, at 18:38:01
Thanks Simus, I'm still trying to decide what to do. Mrs. C
Posted by mrs c on March 4, 2004, at 20:39:51
In reply to Re: Questions at 15mg or 20mg..mrs c., posted by mystic on March 4, 2004, at 18:41:26
Mystic, You are so right. Giving advice is much easier than taking it. But I appreciate everyone's thoughts so much. It's a wonderful feeling to not be alone in this. How was your day today! It's says so much about you as a person to be able to offer me comfort when you are feeling such sadness in your own life. Thanks and I look forward to hearing from you tomorrow. Mrs. C
Posted by sexylexy on March 4, 2004, at 20:44:58
In reply to Evening everyone, posted by mystic on March 4, 2004, at 19:24:12
Hey Mystic,
I know when I was really anxious, I would go work out to try to balance it out. I also was not eating much because I was so so so so so anxious. When I would go work out, I would get more depressed and anxious. I later found out that it was making me hypoglycemic. My blood sugar would drop and drop more after I would work out, this made me very VERY depressed and anxious. So make sure you are eating, especially lots of nuts, beans ect. It should help with the work out!!!
Prayers and Luck,
Lexy
Posted by mrs c on March 4, 2004, at 20:49:00
In reply to Evening everyone, posted by mystic on March 4, 2004, at 19:24:12
Holy Smokes Mystic! Did I forget to mention that I am also extremely afraid of going to the dentist. Yes, I have dental anxiety. I sweat, my heart races, I cry, I put bruises on my hands from squeezing myself so tight. Anyway, what I'm wondering about the Lex is if it's okay to mix with pain med. like codeine. I know that he will prescribe it cause he has in the past but I'm not sure if it's okay to take it and I really don't want to tell him I'm on the Lexapro. I will if I have to though. Maybe I should just call my primary doc and ask her.
Glad to hear that you made it through another day and that you were able to tolerate your Zanax. I'm proud of you for trying to exercise even if it didn't help you feel any better. Keep at it, maybe it takes some time to kick in. I'll check in with you tomorrow. Mrs. C
Posted by Journeyman on March 4, 2004, at 21:10:55
In reply to RE: journeyman, posted by mystic on March 3, 2004, at 21:07:05
Hello Mystic,
Thank you for your kind words. All the people who post on this board, including you, make this a very important and meaningful community.
May you find the acceptance you long for, realizing that all you ever need to have and be is not to be found elsewhere; it is already dwelling in you.
Journeyman
Posted by mystic on March 4, 2004, at 21:19:56
In reply to Re: Evening everyone, posted by mrs c on March 4, 2004, at 20:49:00
Mrs C....You wouldnt believe how many people are terribly phobic about the dentist..and a lot of them take a xanax or something before they go and that is fine to do..Some people even take it just to get their teeth cleaned...My advise to you is dont let you dental needs get away from you because it is very important as to avoid other procedures...I would definately give your primary a call and ask him so that you can avoid having to divulge it to your dentist...I know that you know that this is a very common thing and that everyone even people you would never dream of have this problem but for whatever reason you dont want to tell the dentist is your own..But the most important is for you to FEEL COMFORTABLE so that you can get through the visit..I know all to well how you feel..I had to go through a root canal a couple of weeks ago and I got through it but the anticipatory is the worst...I will say a special prayer for you and do call and find out the med info from your regular dr and avoid stressing about telling your dentist...Talk to you tomorrow ...take care...Your friend Mystic
Posted by Zena on March 4, 2004, at 23:17:04
In reply to Re: Insominia--LynneDa/Gator, posted by Anjul on March 4, 2004, at 17:44:28
Hi Anjul,
I feel for you if your having problems sleeping. I take 15mg. remeron & 1/2 klonopin before bedtime & sleep all night. I also take 10mg. in the morning around 8. This combo works very well for me.
Zena
Posted by Zena on March 4, 2004, at 23:23:36
In reply to Re: Insominia--LynneDa/Gator, posted by Zena on March 4, 2004, at 23:17:04
> Hi Anjul,
> I feel for you if your having problems sleeping. I take 15mg. remeron & 1/2 klonopin before bedtime & sleep all night. I also take 10mg. in the morning around 8. This combo works very well for me.
> ZenaI goofed. Forgot to tell you it's Lex 10mg. I take in the mornings. Sorry!!
Zena
Posted by gr00vy on March 5, 2004, at 1:03:06
In reply to Re: Question: Lexapro 5 and 10 » BobYuma, posted by Esmarelda on January 16, 2004, at 10:09:31
so i went to a doctor for a regular check-up the other day.
"you seem anxious," he says. this is the second time in a week and a half someone has said as much.
i am a new yorker, and a freelancer. that should be enough to make anyone anxious right there. i also have a bad living situation - a roommate who keeps inviting people to live in our apartment (and so i've given notice and i'm moving out, and i don't yet know where but i have about 28 days to find out, and come up with the money to do so).
anxious? duh.
there was another point in my life where i was this stressed out, and i happened to get a regular check up then, too - and the doctor pushed a head pill on me (prozac). a more manic person didn't exist in new york during the month i took that garbage.
i tell this to my new doctor.
"you're probably bipolar," he says - that's what happens to bipolar people who take prozac."
but now he wants me to take this?
unlike my younger, stupider years, i now refuse to put anything in my mouth that hasn't been properly researched. call me vain but the side effects seem worse than the benefits with Lexapro (call me vain but weight gain is the last thing i need to make me feel happier).
thanks for the samples, doc. they were awfully fun to flush.
Posted by simus on March 5, 2004, at 1:20:23
In reply to is my doctor nuts?, posted by gr00vy on March 5, 2004, at 1:03:06
People shouldn't take psychiatric drugs without very serious consideration first. I can't fathom why anyone would take them unless they absolutely had to. They should be a last resort. So...keep flushing.
Posted by Bubbasmom on March 5, 2004, at 1:42:07
In reply to Re: is my doctor nuts? » gr00vy, posted by simus on March 5, 2004, at 1:20:23
Hi All;
Just spent about two hours reading everyone's posts from the last week. Today I just want to say thank you to everyone who posts here because there is such a great support network and I feel like I can come to all of you with any question or gripe that I may have without being judged. I am now on week 3 and things are continuing to improve for me. I still have to occasional anxious feelings but am generally doing much better. I no longer feel like a failure. I am trying to remember that I can only change those things that are within my power to change. This is a hard thing for me because I want to be the peacemaker. I am trying to recognize and accept my limits, however frustrating they may seem. Thanks to everyone for listening and being so supportive as I embark on this journey!
Michelle
Posted by BLKVETTES on March 5, 2004, at 2:42:18
In reply to Re: Lexapro Dosing Info--You may find this useful » meow mary, posted by johnray on March 4, 2004, at 19:35:58
> > I saw my doctor today. He said he's been getting a lot of disappointed responses from his patients who have been at 10mgs, and thinks there is a certain amount of "hype" about that dosage being effective--especially in the case of OCD where a higher dosage is usually required. He doubled my dosage, although he said it would be fine to start with 15 at first.
>
>
> Fellow Lexapro users may find this interesting. I started on 10 mg. of Lex for severe anxiety and after four and a half weeks I felt like the anxiety was just modestly improved while the nausea and sexual side effets were very noticable. I had the strange feeling of being sleepy and anxious at the same time. My pdr said to go to 20 because most people who can tolerate 10 have no problem with the higher dose. When I got home I took another 5 mgs. intending to go up to 15 first and then 20.
> In about an hour and a half I had a major anxiety attack that lasted around six hours. What I ended up doing was making a solution of one 20 mg. Lex tablet in 20 ml distilled water or saline and slowly raised my dose 1/2 mg. every few days. Even this was a bit touchy. I found that at 12 mgs. the anxiety started to noticably improve. I'm now at 13 mgs. and am just about fine. So it looks like small differences in dose can trans late into big differences in effect. I plan to use the Lex as cover so I can transition back to Imipramine without the start-up anxiety with that drug and slowly eliminate the Lex. No sex is no fun and fairly small doses of Imipramine will keep anxiety at tolerable levels. I plan to try Pregabalin at the earliest opportunity and hopefully use this to replace my clonazapam.
>
>I take 7.5mgs of lex and have been there for about 7 months. I played lab rat with myself until I found a dose that worked. I must have changed my dose 50 times. Anytime I went up to 10mg. the anxiety was pretty bad. A few mgs. can make a huge difference.
WAYNE
Posted by Anjul on March 5, 2004, at 6:44:18
In reply to Re: Insominia--LynneDa/Gator, posted by Zena on March 4, 2004, at 23:17:04
Zena,
All I know of Remeron is the reported major weight gain. What has been your experience with the side effects of this combo? Thanks so much!! Anjul
Posted by Zena on March 5, 2004, at 8:50:29
In reply to Re: Insominia-Zena, posted by Anjul on March 5, 2004, at 6:44:18
Anjul,
I haven't gained any weight on the remeron & I've been on it for almost two years. I am on week 4 of Lex -so far no weight gain. I walk/jog 5 days a week & watch my diet closely. No caffeine & lots of fruits & vegs.Let me know if you decide to take remeron. It's wonderful for sleep.
Zena
Posted by BobYuma on March 5, 2004, at 9:15:49
In reply to Re: Lexapro Dosing Info--Final thought on Lex dose, posted by johnray on March 4, 2004, at 19:50:34
> > There is, in my opinion, no posible way that 10 mgs. of Lex can be as effective as 200 mgs. of Zoloft as claimed in a Forrest Lab sponsored study.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Lexapro's active ingredient is Escitalopram Oxalate.
Zoloft's active ingredient is Sertraline Hydrochloride.Both Aspirin and Imitrex (active ingredient: sumatriptan) are taken for headaches. Many people take two Aspirin for their headache, which would be around 650 mg. Other people with headaches take Imitrex, the average dose being 50 mg.
Would you argue that one should take 650 mg of Imitrex in order to obtain the same pain relief that you'd receive from 650 mg of Aspirin?
BobYuma
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