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Posted by sme on June 11, 2003, at 18:57:50
In reply to Update, posted by pumpkin on June 11, 2003, at 16:49:14
I have memory problems too. My boyfriend is always amazed and harps at me for it. I don't think he really believes it's the meds. My doctor suspects I may be bipolar too. Actually at this point, he says that I demonstrate manic like qualities. (which only happens when I forget a dose of my 10 mg lexapro). These are very powerful medications and it gets old quickly when you suffer from the side effects. But truly, Ive been at the bottom of the well and I remember how dark it was. I truly don't want to re-visit that place. So, to ease my mind, I remind myself that I'm taking an active role to keep my self healthy. And I will go through any lengths to assure it. If I don't, shame on me. Good luck, I hope all goes well. Prayers for you :)
Posted by vandy on June 11, 2003, at 20:44:24
In reply to Re: Blkvettes, Dude, I'm only on Lex..., posted by 2beornot2benuts on June 11, 2003, at 9:35:26
Wow! You understand the meaning of life. Did you forget or could you tell me? I know. We have to take that to another area of the board to discuss it but I'm more than willing. <giggle>
I had one of those experiences. It wasn't very illuminating. It went something like, "What a bum you are, Vandy."
Posted by vandy on June 11, 2003, at 20:59:46
In reply to Update, posted by pumpkin on June 11, 2003, at 16:49:14
Boy, do you ever tell the truth. Sometimes I feel the same way about street vs. legal drugs. I know I experience bouts of "why can't you just buck up and take it like a person?" I think that's the culture. I've made peace with the meds with the following thought: "I know what to do to end the depression. All that I need do is stand up, elevate my gaze (like look up) and paste a frozen smile on my face. I can't be depressed that way. I doubt that anyone can.
But when I'm in the fog I can't think of doing the above. My mind doesn't seem to permit it. And when I'm really under it, I can't even take the direction from a loved one to go through the motions."
So I use a chemical balancer. It gets my ship closer to level and then I can help myself. The hope is to get off the external stuff. I've done that before and it got me off Paxil. I had no side effects from the Paxil and my support group at the time included a PNurse who was very helpful getting me through the gear up phase; that time when you're taking the meds but it hasn't reached a critical level in your body yet and seems to do nothing.
After that I did better. I did better for about 7 or 8 years after ending the SSRI. You know, even with the experience as positive as it was from before, I still was reluctant to ask for meds and help. I'm sure glad I did. And I grateful for everyone here on this board who've kept up my spirits as I wait for the levels to build. Thank you. I hope I'm passing on the gift you've all given to me.
So hang in there, Pumpkin. Don't sell yourself short by not giving the stuff the necessary time to work for you. And remember the immortal words of Mark Twain, "You wouldn't mind what others thought if you knew how seldom they did."
Posted by theump on June 11, 2003, at 21:16:11
In reply to Re: Update, posted by vandy on June 11, 2003, at 20:59:46
As I've mentioned in earlier posts, this is my first experience with what my primary care doc and I believe to be depression and any type of AD. I know it takes different amounts of time for everyone to get to the level that will help them. Before that time comes, how will I know if the levels aren't there yet or if I'm just lazy, uninspired and mopey all on my own? I haven't seen a psychologist yet, just my primary care doc. This is something I'm looking into.
Today is one week and still no unbearable SEs. From reading the other posts I'm feeling very lucky. I think I'm experiencing teeth clenching during the night, but I had problems with that before starting Lex, so I just wear my night splint.
Thank you for your support whether you do it directly or indirectly.
Posted by Mariposa on June 11, 2003, at 21:38:14
In reply to How will I know, posted by theump on June 11, 2003, at 21:16:11
> As I've mentioned in earlier posts, this is my first experience with what my primary care doc and I believe to be depression and any type of AD. I know it takes different amounts of time for everyone to get to the level that will help them. Before that time comes, how will I know if the levels aren't there yet or if I'm just lazy, uninspired and mopey all on my own? I haven't seen a psychologist yet, just my primary care doc. This is something I'm looking into.
>
> Today is one week and still no unbearable SEs. From reading the other posts I'm feeling very lucky. I think I'm experiencing teeth clenching during the night, but I had problems with that before starting Lex, so I just wear my night splint.
>
> Thank you for your support whether you do it directly or indirectly.I didn't know until I had been on Lex for 9 weeks....by then I was sure it was working and I felt better. It's like someone else said (was it Blkvettes or Wayne???)in a post here a while back...a light comes on....
For me it was sitting on the couch talking to my husband...something came on TV and it was funny....and I REALLY LAUGHED!!! It felt real good!!!
I hope the rest of you can benefit from this med as I have, BEST OF LUCK!~~~8|8
Posted by Faithfull on June 11, 2003, at 21:39:17
In reply to Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl, posted by Dr. Bob on June 11, 2002, at 7:52:48
Precious people,
The reason I found this web site is because my 23 year old daughter is on Lexapro for anxiety and depression. I was concerned for her and started doing some research on the drug. Even though I don't know you, I feel a common bond with each of you. I can sense your pain and anguish. My heart goes out to each and every one of you. I use to suffer from anxiety, fear and depression all my life for as long as I can remember up until 10 years ago. I would drink alcohol until I was stupid just to relax and feel normal. Then one awesome and wonderful day I came to know the Lord Jesus intimately and as my personal savior; I became a Christian. His power and love for me has set me free from the chains and bondages I had in my life. He litterally transformed me inside/out. Where there was darkness there is now light. My husband, too suffered greatly with fear and anxiety, which would lead to depression. He was a Christian, but had grown bitter and cold to the Lord because of a major betrayal someone had done to him. I believe he experienced the darkness because he had taken his eyes off of Jesus and no longer sought the Lord for deliverence and forgiveness. He went to a couple of pdocs and of course they wanted to treat him with a pill. After doing much research on the meds, he was too afraid to continue taking them because of all the side effects and risks. He has since then overcome the fear, anxiety and depression. He realized that he could do all things through Christ and realizing the feelings and thoughts he was having was irrational and not reality. For example, he would walk into a room and think that everyone was looking at him, or be afraid to speak, for fear he would say something stupid; to hear him tell it, he lived an utter night mare (hell if you will) any time he would be in a social setting. I even sensed he felt that way around me at times. There is hope, and Jesus is the answer. Satan has counterfit ways to overcome fear and anxiety, but his counterfit will only temporarily treat the symptoms and cover up the problem, and also comes with a price, when all along, he, Satan, is the root cause of the darkness in ones life. If you do not know the Lord, please ask Him into your heart and life. Confess your need for His strength, love and forgiveness in your life to overcome sin and darkness. He will hear your prayer and come into your life. Begin to read the Bible, starting in the New Testament. Find a full gospel church that has not been labeled a "cult". Ask the Lord to guide you and to bring people into your life that will be an encouragement to you and mentor you in His awesome Word, the Bible. I feel a love for each and every one of you, and I know it is the heart of the Lord who wants to reach out to each and every one of you. My daughter has not chosen to do this, but I know one day she will. May the Lord richly bless you and guide you into perfect peace.
Sincerely in Christ,
Jan (concerned mother and friend)
Posted by Faithfull on June 11, 2003, at 22:15:23
In reply to Re: Alternative, posted by Faithfull on June 11, 2003, at 21:39:17
I wanted to add to the following post. I hope I did not sound insensitive to those who are struggling with pain or other physical disorders. I know that living with physical or mental pain can lead to depression and cause a feeling of dispair. I also wanted to add, that as long as we are on this earth we will have bad days. Days that can cause anxiety and depression. But there again, Jesus is the answer. The Bible says He is our Comforter and Healer. I just wanted to share what answers I have found. I hope they will be received and someone will be blessed by them. I also believe that Jesus is the answer for physical, mental and emotional pain. He is the Great Physician!
Jan> Precious people,
> The reason I found this web site is because my 23 year old daughter is on Lexapro for anxiety and depression. I was concerned for her and started doing some research on the drug. Even though I don't know you, I feel a common bond with each of you. I can sense your pain and anguish. My heart goes out to each and every one of you. I use to suffer from anxiety, fear and depression all my life for as long as I can remember up until 10 years ago. I would drink alcohol until I was stupid just to relax and feel normal. Then one awesome and wonderful day I came to know the Lord Jesus intimately and as my personal savior; I became a Christian. His power and love for me has set me free from the chains and bondages I had in my life. He litterally transformed me inside/out. Where there was darkness there is now light. My husband, too suffered greatly with fear and anxiety, which would lead to depression. He was a Christian, but had grown bitter and cold to the Lord because of a major betrayal someone had done to him. I believe he experienced the darkness because he had taken his eyes off of Jesus and no longer sought the Lord for deliverence and forgiveness. He went to a couple of pdocs and of course they wanted to treat him with a pill. After doing much research on the meds, he was too afraid to continue taking them because of all the side effects and risks. He has since then overcome the fear, anxiety and depression. He realized that he could do all things through Christ and realizing the feelings and thoughts he was having was irrational and not reality. For example, he would walk into a room and think that everyone was looking at him, or be afraid to speak, for fear he would say something stupid; to hear him tell it, he lived an utter night mare (hell if you will) any time he would be in a social setting. I even sensed he felt that way around me at times. There is hope, and Jesus is the answer. Satan has counterfit ways to overcome fear and anxiety, but his counterfit will only temporarily treat the symptoms and cover up the problem, and also comes with a price, when all along, he, Satan, is the root cause of the darkness in ones life. If you do not know the Lord, please ask Him into your heart and life. Confess your need for His strength, love and forgiveness in your life to overcome sin and darkness. He will hear your prayer and come into your life. Begin to read the Bible, starting in the New Testament. Find a full gospel church that has not been labeled a "cult". Ask the Lord to guide you and to bring people into your life that will be an encouragement to you and mentor you in His awesome Word, the Bible. I feel a love for each and every one of you, and I know it is the heart of the Lord who wants to reach out to each and every one of you. My daughter has not chosen to do this, but I know one day she will. May the Lord richly bless you and guide you into perfect peace.
> Sincerely in Christ,
> Jan (concerned mother and friend)
Posted by blkvettes on June 12, 2003, at 1:55:15
In reply to Re: Alternative, posted by Faithfull on June 11, 2003, at 22:15:23
> I wanted to add to the following post. I hope I did not sound insensitive to those who are struggling with pain or other physical disorders. I know that living with physical or mental pain can lead to depression and cause a feeling of dispair. I also wanted to add, that as long as we are on this earth we will have bad days. Days that can cause anxiety and depression. But there again, Jesus is the answer. The Bible says He is our Comforter and Healer. I just wanted to share what answers I have found. I hope they will be received and someone will be blessed by them. I also believe that Jesus is the answer for physical, mental and emotional pain. He is the Great Physician!
> Jan
>
>
>
> > Precious people,
> > The reason I found this web site is because my 23 year old daughter is on Lexapro for anxiety and depression. I was concerned for her and started doing some research on the drug. Even though I don't know you, I feel a common bond with each of you. I can sense your pain and anguish. My heart goes out to each and every one of you. I use to suffer from anxiety, fear and depression all my life for as long as I can remember up until 10 years ago. I would drink alcohol until I was stupid just to relax and feel normal. Then one awesome and wonderful day I came to know the Lord Jesus intimately and as my personal savior; I became a Christian. His power and love for me has set me free from the chains and bondages I had in my life. He litterally transformed me inside/out. Where there was darkness there is now light. My husband, too suffered greatly with fear and anxiety, which would lead to depression. He was a Christian, but had grown bitter and cold to the Lord because of a major betrayal someone had done to him. I believe he experienced the darkness because he had taken his eyes off of Jesus and no longer sought the Lord for deliverence and forgiveness. He went to a couple of pdocs and of course they wanted to treat him with a pill. After doing much research on the meds, he was too afraid to continue taking them because of all the side effects and risks. He has since then overcome the fear, anxiety and depression. He realized that he could do all things through Christ and realizing the feelings and thoughts he was having was irrational and not reality. For example, he would walk into a room and think that everyone was looking at him, or be afraid to speak, for fear he would say something stupid; to hear him tell it, he lived an utter night mare (hell if you will) any time he would be in a social setting. I even sensed he felt that way around me at times. There is hope, and Jesus is the answer. Satan has counterfit ways to overcome fear and anxiety, but his counterfit will only temporarily treat the symptoms and cover up the problem, and also comes with a price, when all along, he, Satan, is the root cause of the darkness in ones life. If you do not know the Lord, please ask Him into your heart and life. Confess your need for His strength, love and forgiveness in your life to overcome sin and darkness. He will hear your prayer and come into your life. Begin to read the Bible, starting in the New Testament. Find a full gospel church that has not been labeled a "cult". Ask the Lord to guide you and to bring people into your life that will be an encouragement to you and mentor you in His awesome Word, the Bible. I feel a love for each and every one of you, and I know it is the heart of the Lord who wants to reach out to each and every one of you. My daughter has not chosen to do this, but I know one day she will. May the Lord richly bless you and guide you into perfect peace.
> > Sincerely in Christ,
> > Jan (concerned mother and friend)
>
>Jan, how you doing!!!! Ill tell you no one has prayed more than me the last 8 months or so. Im truly happy the lord has cured your problems. He has helped me so much also. But I believe he gave someone the knowledge to make that little pill to help me get better. So if I understand you right you would not go to the doctor for any illness. Blood pressure, broken leg, diabetes, some kind of infection or anything. You would just pray it away!!!! In a lot of cases and I will say most this is an illness like any other. Im not trying to be mean!!!! I will just leave it there and say GOD bless you and I pray your daughter gets better!!!!
WAYNE
Posted by blkvettes on June 12, 2003, at 1:59:40
In reply to Re: Blkvettes, Dude, I'm only on Lex..., posted by vandy on June 11, 2003, at 20:44:24
> Wow! You understand the meaning of life. Did you forget or could you tell me? I know. We have to take that to another area of the board to discuss it but I'm more than willing. <giggle>
>
> I had one of those experiences. It wasn't very illuminating. It went something like, "What a bum you are, Vandy."
I love your sense of humor. To not go to another board you say something about lexapro every other sentence or so. Like Im on week 17 or so and still going strong!! TAKE CARE!!!
WAYNE
Posted by blkvettes on June 12, 2003, at 2:03:52
In reply to Re: How will I know » theump, posted by Mariposa on June 11, 2003, at 21:38:14
> > As I've mentioned in earlier posts, this is my first experience with what my primary care doc and I believe to be depression and any type of AD. I know it takes different amounts of time for everyone to get to the level that will help them. Before that time comes, how will I know if the levels aren't there yet or if I'm just lazy, uninspired and mopey all on my own? I haven't seen a psychologist yet, just my primary care doc. This is something I'm looking into.
> >
> > Today is one week and still no unbearable SEs. From reading the other posts I'm feeling very lucky. I think I'm experiencing teeth clenching during the night, but I had problems with that before starting Lex, so I just wear my night splint.
> >
> > Thank you for your support whether you do it directly or indirectly.
>
> I didn't know until I had been on Lex for 9 weeks....by then I was sure it was working and I felt better. It's like someone else said (was it Blkvettes or Wayne???)in a post here a while back...a light comes on....
>
> For me it was sitting on the couch talking to my husband...something came on TV and it was funny....and I REALLY LAUGHED!!! It felt real good!!!
>
> I hope the rest of you can benefit from this med as I have, BEST OF LUCK!~~~8|8
Boy thats it exactly!!!! I was sitting at my computer one night and realized I was not depressed. Like you said you just have to be patient!!! TAKE CARE!!!
WAYNE
Posted by 2beornot2benuts on June 12, 2003, at 9:05:49
In reply to Re: Blkvettes, Dude, I'm only on Lex..., posted by blkvettes on June 12, 2003, at 1:59:40
Help!! This is the worst my SE's have been yet! I've got a wicked headache,horrible nausea, and I'm soooo dizzy I couln't get my 8yr old son to school today. My pdoc told me a few days ago, I could increase my lex dose from 10 to 20, I told him I was terrified to make that big a jump,so he told me to go up to 15. I usually take it at night, and it's 10:00am now. I'm freaking! I'm so screwed!!! Help! What do I do? I put a call into my GP to let him know what's up, and also to get a referral for another pdoc in my plan. The one I see now cares more for the clinical study He's doing on lex,than Me. Any guidance would be so very appreciated... I gotta go lay down before I puke...Jackie
Posted by 2beornot2benuts on June 12, 2003, at 9:28:40
In reply to Lexapro comments, posted by wally on January 9, 2003, at 2:22:56
Posted by DC on June 12, 2003, at 9:42:38
In reply to Re: Alternative, posted by Faithfull on June 11, 2003, at 21:39:17
Precious people,
> The reason I found this web site is because my 23 year old daughter is on Lexapro for anxiety and depression. I was concerned for her and started doing some research on the drug. Even though I don't know you, I feel a common bond with each of you. I can sense your pain and anguish. My heart goes out to each and every one of you. I use to suffer from anxiety, fear and depression all my life for as long as I can remember up until 10 years ago. I would drink alcohol until I was stupid just to relax and feel normal. Then one awesome and wonderful day I came to know the Lord Jesus intimately and as my personal savior; I became a Christian. His power and love for me has set me free from the chains and bondages I had in my life. He litterally transformed me inside/out. Where there was darkness there is now light. My husband, too suffered greatly with fear and anxiety, which would lead to depression. He was a Christian, but had grown bitter and cold to the Lord because of a major betrayal someone had done to him. I believe he experienced the darkness because he had taken his eyes off of Jesus and no longer sought the Lord for deliverence and forgiveness. He went to a couple of pdocs and of course they wanted to treat him with a pill. After doing much research on the meds, he was too afraid to continue taking them because of all the side effects and risks. He has since then overcome the fear, anxiety and depression. He realized that he could do all things through Christ and realizing the feelings and thoughts he was having was irrational and not reality. For example, he would walk into a room and think that everyone was looking at him, or be afraid to speak, for fear he would say something stupid; to hear him tell it, he lived an utter night mare (hell if you will) any time he would be in a social setting. I even sensed he felt that way around me at times. There is hope, and Jesus is the answer. Satan has counterfit ways to overcome fear and anxiety, but his counterfit will only temporarily treat the symptoms and cover up the problem, and also comes with a price, when all along, he, Satan, is the root cause of the darkness in ones life. If you do not know the Lord, please ask Him into your heart and life. Confess your need for His strength, love and forgiveness in your life to overcome sin and darkness. He will hear your prayer and come into your life. Begin to read the Bible, starting in the New Testament. Find a full gospel church that has not been labeled a "cult". Ask the Lord to guide you and to bring people into your life that will be an encouragement to you and mentor you in His awesome Word, the Bible. I feel a love for each and every one of you, and I know it is the heart of the Lord who wants to reach out to each and every one of you. My daughter has not chosen to do this, but I know one day she will. May the Lord richly bless you and guide you into perfect peace.
> Sincerely in Christ,
> Jan (concerned mother and friend)****Another psycho babble site:
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Posted by sme on June 12, 2003, at 10:08:40
In reply to Re: Alternative » Faithfull, posted by DC on June 12, 2003, at 9:42:38
I know you mean well, but I challenge you to go to a cancer support room and tell them the same thing. You and many other people believe that this is simply a state of mind. It is to a certain degree. Prayer and positive attitude is a part of the process of healing. But without the miracle of pharmaceuticals that the good lord has given humans the ability to create, I would not be alive today. I treat this as diligently as I treat my high blood pressure. I hope I don't sound mean, but I have to admit I am a bit offended.
Posted by Napaba on June 12, 2003, at 10:29:31
In reply to Re: Alternative, posted by sme on June 12, 2003, at 10:08:40
I agree. I'm a Christian and so was the doctor I saw when I first had to start taking an anti-depresent. He explained it, as God directs us to where we can get the help we need. My church criticized me for taking meds and said I wasn't praying enough. It's an illness and like many other ones there is a place and time for medication.
I know you mean well, but I challenge you to go to a cancer support room and tell them the same thing. You and many other people believe that this is simply a state of mind. It is to a certain degree. Prayer and positive attitude is a part of the process of healing. But without the miracle of pharmaceuticals that the good lord has given humans the ability to create, I would not be alive today. I treat this as diligently as I treat my high blood pressure. I hope I don't sound mean, but I have to admit I am a bit offended.
Posted by DC on June 12, 2003, at 10:34:41
In reply to Re: Alternative, posted by sme on June 12, 2003, at 10:08:40
> I know you mean well, but I challenge you to go to a cancer support room and tell them the same thing. You and many other people believe that this is simply a state of mind. It is to a certain degree. Prayer and positive attitude is a part of the process of healing. But without the miracle of pharmaceuticals that the good lord has given humans the ability to create, I would not be alive today. I treat this as diligently as I treat my high blood pressure. I hope I don't sound mean, but I have to admit I am a bit offended.
Was no intention of offending anyone. Maybe I am
misunderstanding this post above. I wasn't leaning
toward the pharmaceuticals, the original post came
off as if it isn't actually the meds, but more of
a posting of preaching. I do apologize if I have
taken anything in the wrong context.
Posted by blkvettes on June 12, 2003, at 11:01:52
In reply to Re: Dear Merciful Lord..., posted by 2beornot2benuts on June 12, 2003, at 9:05:49
> Help!! This is the worst my SE's have been yet! I've got a wicked headache,horrible nausea, and I'm soooo dizzy I couln't get my 8yr old son to school today. My pdoc told me a few days ago, I could increase my lex dose from 10 to 20, I told him I was terrified to make that big a jump,so he told me to go up to 15. I usually take it at night, and it's 10:00am now. I'm freaking! I'm so screwed!!! Help! What do I do? I put a call into my GP to let him know what's up, and also to get a referral for another pdoc in my plan. The one I see now cares more for the clinical study He's doing on lex,than Me. Any guidance would be so very appreciated... I gotta go lay down before I puke...Jackie
Hi Jackie, my opinion is your pdoc is an ???hole. I went back and looked at your first post. I see you have been off the effexor less than a month and started the lexapro less than a month ago. My opinion is drop your dose down to 7.5mg or 5mg but you have to get permission. I dont want something to happen to you. It can take a good month to get the effexor out of your system. I really cant understand why your pdoc would even consider moving your dose up when your withdrawling and have not even given the lexapro a chance to work yet. This makes no sense to me, maybe Im stupid!!!!!!!!! I hope someone else has an opinion on this!!!! You are probably still coming off the effexor. If Im wrong with the timing of your meds please say something!!!! My opinion is your pdoc is an ???hole. If I were you I would see your family doctor and have a quick physical, pulse, blood pressure etc. Please do this Im really concerned about you. GOD BLESS!!!!
WAYNE
Posted by lil' jimi on June 12, 2003, at 11:27:35
In reply to Re: alcohol versus lexapro » lil' jimi, posted by oldhand on June 10, 2003, at 22:08:46
hey there, Oldhand!
miss having you check in with us here ..... glad to hear you're hanging in there!
a while back i replied to DC:
> >
> > ... you know, Someone, not blkvettes, but somebody, a long time ago, posted about this and i got confused and thought it was Wayne (blkvettes) .... i only remember that they felt one of the effects of Lexapro for them was their desire/interest/need for alcohol had decreased and they gave up drinking as a result ....
> >
> > because alcohol is a major depressant, i understand that we, as anti-depressant users are advised to curtail our alcohol consumption ..... anyway.
> >
> >to which you were kind enough to reply with:
> Hi all! I am one of those people who no longer have the desire to drink alcohol since starting Lexapro. I have been taking it since November, 10 mg and I really have lost the desire to drink. Oh, it occurs to me that I want beer but then it passes very quickly. I was seriously abusing alcohol for a long time, probably self medicating. Now I barely miss it and have lost 40 pounds!!!
> I began with a new shrink yesterday and she increased my Lex from 10 to 20mg at my request. I have felt pretty good on the Lex at 10mg but not as well as I would like to. I am living with the elderly parents at age 53 after going on disability and letting my house go. It is quite a change for an independent like me. But I am very thankful not to have that NEED for alcohol anymore.
>and now i continue my response to your reply here:
even though i have not had an alcohol problem, i find it validating that it is possible that neurotransmitter dysfunction(s) that may lead to "self-medicating" with alcohol (which may well lead to alcohol abuse) could be compensated for or alleviated enough for folks to recover from alcohol dependence.even as a theory, this suggests the powerful efficacy of lexapro's ssri effect and the real possibility of non-alcohol-related benefits to our sisters and brothers in lexapro... ... ....
... ... because if it is even likely that lex could successfully stabilize the neurotransmitters for folks trying to recover from alcohol addiction, then we might reasonably hope that lex may well be powerful enough to help any of us.
anyway that is my theory,
and you, ol' friend oldhand are very kind to refresh my memory (i share memory issues with several other of our lex posters) that it was you i was trying to remember and
thus offer your validation of the theory ... ...... ... and you ARE no "theory"!... ... you are REAL! .... YEAH!
and thanks! ... i appreciate that! ... and your reply!
please, keep us posted and
(you know where i get this!)
TAKE CARE !!!!!!!
~ jimp.s. congratualtions on your weight loss!.... all of the ED and OCDers should get to hear about this.
~ j
Posted by oldhand on June 12, 2003, at 12:16:18
In reply to Re: alcohol versus lexapro » oldhand, posted by lil' jimi on June 12, 2003, at 11:27:35
> hey there, Oldhand!
>
> miss having you check in with us here ..... glad to hear you're hanging in there!
>
> a while back i replied to DC:
> > >
> > > ... you know, Someone, not blkvettes, but somebody, a long time ago, posted about this and i got confused and thought it was Wayne (blkvettes) .... i only remember that they felt one of the effects of Lexapro for them was their desire/interest/need for alcohol had decreased and they gave up drinking as a result ....
> > >
> > > because alcohol is a major depressant, i understand that we, as anti-depressant users are advised to curtail our alcohol consumption ..... anyway.
> > >
> > >
>
> to which you were kind enough to reply with:
> > Hi all! I am one of those people who no longer have the desire to drink alcohol since starting Lexapro. I have been taking it since November, 10 mg and I really have lost the desire to drink. Oh, it occurs to me that I want beer but then it passes very quickly. I was seriously abusing alcohol for a long time, probably self medicating. Now I barely miss it and have lost 40 pounds!!!
> > I began with a new shrink yesterday and she increased my Lex from 10 to 20mg at my request. I have felt pretty good on the Lex at 10mg but not as well as I would like to. I am living with the elderly parents at age 53 after going on disability and letting my house go. It is quite a change for an independent like me. But I am very thankful not to have that NEED for alcohol anymore.
> >
>
> and now i continue my response to your reply here:
> even though i have not had an alcohol problem, i find it validating that it is possible that neurotransmitter dysfunction(s) that may lead to "self-medicating" with alcohol (which may well lead to alcohol abuse) could be compensated for or alleviated enough for folks to recover from alcohol dependence.
>
> even as a theory, this suggests the powerful efficacy of lexapro's ssri effect and the real possibility of non-alcohol-related benefits to our sisters and brothers in lexapro... ... ....
>
> ... ... because if it is even likely that lex could successfully stabilize the neurotransmitters for folks trying to recover from alcohol addiction, then we might reasonably hope that lex may well be powerful enough to help any of us.
>
> anyway that is my theory,
> and you, ol' friend oldhand are very kind to refresh my memory (i share memory issues with several other of our lex posters) that it was you i was trying to remember and
> thus offer your validation of the theory ... ...
>
> ... ... and you ARE no "theory"!... ... you are REAL! .... YEAH!
>
> and thanks! ... i appreciate that! ... and your reply!
>
> please, keep us posted and
> (you know where i get this!)
> TAKE CARE !!!!!!!
> ~ jim
>
> p.s. congratualtions on your weight loss!.... all of the ED and OCDers should get to hear about this.
> ~ jLIL Jimi, Thanks much for the encouraging words! I also have a theory that alcohol use/abuse may be the reason that so many of the AD's I've tried, pooped-out. While we are all aware of the depressant effects of alcohol, it was hard to learn that I was just negating the effects of the AD's. For me, something in the Lex seems to have replaced the craving and it (beer) does not even taste good to me anymore. I have had a few in the last six months but it didn't do what I remember it doing for me so why bother (and all those extra calories!) <grin> As a friend of mine said to me "you've probably drunk your share." And I guess I have!!!
I'll keep you posted about the increase in Lex. Shrink seemed to want to add bi-polar to my dx and maybe some Lithium, but am keeping a mood diary for her. I sure haven't felt "real good" like the mania end of it so I am not ready to accept that yet.
And to all you newbies........Keep on keepin on, it is worth it when the Lex kicks in for you. With wishes for peace for us all.
Posted by 2beornot2benuts on June 12, 2003, at 12:27:01
In reply to Re: Anyone having migraines??? » 2beornot2benuts, posted by lil' jimi on June 7, 2003, at 13:15:30
Hey Jim, Sorry I haven't written back since your 6/6 post Re:Migraines. Interesting stuff about A/D's being similar to brain surgery, Electro-convulsive therapy, hot showers and jalapenos. So many details!<hee!hee!> As for the Home Team they're holding up, dealing as best as they can with me being so sick from Lex SE's and Effexor xr withdrawl. Thanks for your prayers and concern...And hope your feeling well...Jackie
Posted by Sabina on June 12, 2003, at 13:35:10
In reply to Re: Thankfully, Tramadol's kicking in... (nm), posted by 2beornot2benuts on June 12, 2003, at 9:28:40
Sometimes Tramadol makes me feel kinda pukey, so you may have double trouble stemming from upping your Lex dosage while adding the Tramadol. Just a thought. I have a *really* low tolerance for nausea and am allergic to Fenergen and all anti-nausea drugs. Maybe that could help you, though. Sorry you're having such a bad day!
Posted by Sabina on June 12, 2003, at 13:51:03
In reply to Re: Alternative, posted by Faithfull on June 11, 2003, at 21:39:17
I respectfully object to this part of your message, however well intentioned: "Jesus is the answer. Satan has counterfit (sic) ways to overcome fear and anxiety, but his counterfit (sic) will only temporarily treat the symptoms and cover up the problem, and also comes with a price, when all along, he, Satan, is the root cause of the darkness in ones life."
Neither Satan or sin are the root cause of the darkness in my life, namely depression, anxiety, and chronic illness. I am well acquainted with this school of thought. I was raised, in fact, saturated with it. It is invalidating, irresponsible, and dangerous, in my opinion, to tell people in this forum (some of whom may be very impressionable) that "Satan" and/or "sin" is the cause of a deficiency or imbalance of chemicals in our brains. While I respect your beliefs and wish you only the best, I do not feel that this is the appropriate venue for comments of that nature.
Posted by sme on June 12, 2003, at 13:52:16
In reply to Re: Alternative, posted by DC on June 12, 2003, at 10:34:41
I think I'm confused.... But anyway, my response was to that original posting. I realize it was a repeat of something already written now. In any case, even though it agitated me, I hope it did give solace to someone else. :)
Posted by johnj on June 12, 2003, at 15:24:07
In reply to Re: Alternative, posted by Sabina on June 12, 2003, at 13:51:03
for impressionable people. I would hate to have someone believe what Faithful said and have it make them worse off, that in itself would be a sin. Thanks Sabina
johnj
Posted by stjames on June 12, 2003, at 16:26:22
In reply to Re: Alternative, posted by Faithfull on June 11, 2003, at 21:39:17
If you want to discuss religion within the context
of mental illness, I think the board for that is:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/ & not htis board.
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