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Posted by reifiedbeans on September 16, 2002, at 16:15:36
In reply to When did you start lexapro? and » reifiedbeans, posted by johnj on September 16, 2002, at 14:41:33
> have you ever been on a TCA? Thanks
>
> johnjNo, I haven't.
Fishgirl, no weight gain yet, but it's only been a week. The literature claims that weight gain is "similar to placebo," i.e. none that is statistically significant.
Posted by Mark H. on September 16, 2002, at 19:23:46
In reply to Re: LEXAPRO -- USER REPORT -- BAD NEWS, posted by reifiedbeans on September 16, 2002, at 13:43:56
> You are an idiot. I've had no problems with Lexapro. Your experiences in no way can be extrapolated to everyone else.
Reifiedbeans: Your second and third sentences were just fine. Name-calling is not. Different people have different experiences with meds. Please respect those differences and the views of other posters.
Many thanks,
Mark H.
Posted by pharmrep on September 16, 2002, at 20:44:55
In reply to Re: LEXAPRO/lobotomy, posted by emf on September 16, 2002, at 14:14:28
> I have a question. I began Lexapro (10mg) and in just one day I started to feel a buzz. I am not screaming at my children anymore, nor am I getting anxiety. However, I feel a little "lobotomized" in that I've become a little bland in my personality. I am usually very upbeat and exciteable. I'm wondering if I should take only 5 mg/day instead. What do you think? I was on Zoloft a couple years ago, and although it didn't give me quite the "buzz" Lexapro has, Zoloft gave me complete and total sexual dysfunction, not to mention cognitive deficiencies (I'd mix my words and have trouble reading other words). Any women out there suffering from anorgasmia on Lexapro?
** Remember..all of these are "mind altering" drugs to some extent, and it takes awhile to adjust. 1-2 weeks is when most will experience Lexapro "working" and even sooner for anxiety. Dont go to 5mg...give it time, as with most AD's most s/e will subside with time...I'll bet that lobotomy feeling will dissipate..hang in there.
Posted by pharmrep on September 16, 2002, at 20:49:06
In reply to Re: Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl, posted by fishgirl on September 16, 2002, at 14:55:16
> If anyone has switched from Celexa to Lexapro, have you noticed the ever slowly creeping weight gain? Is that still a side effect?
** Did you have a weight change? Celexa is considered weight neutral..no gain or loss. the 1 year study showed about 1-2lb gain...the 2 year study showed 2-3lbs...not significant. SSRI's in general are known for some weight gain (especially paxil) but Lexapro is like Celexa...weight neutral
Posted by seafari on September 17, 2002, at 8:04:16
In reply to Re: weight change » fishgirl, posted by pharmrep on September 16, 2002, at 20:49:06
This is my first post on this board; I had looked at it a couple of weeks ago when researching Lexapro. To give you some background, I'm a woman in my thirties, & have been taking Klonopin (.5 twice daily) for about 3 years for GAD. I did a really slow taper off off it which was completed by the end of March. Towards the end of June, I became very worried about obtaining new health insurance as my old one was ending July 1. I started experiencing 27-7 stomach pain. An upper endo showed esophagitis & diffuse gastritis. I am on Nexium, and have had no problem with it. By then, though, my anxiety was non-stop. I lost 15 lbs in 3 weeks-- a total of 20 shortly thereafter. My doc put me back on Klonopin .5 3x daily. I had other medical tests done because I am still symptomatic for some other things. I felt the anxiety was pulling me down and finally realized around the first of September that I was becoming depressed as well.
So...my doc gave me a sample box of Celexa which gave me instant dry mouth. When I saw the high evidence for nausea, I asked to skip this as I already had enough problems with nausea & lack of appetite.
He had just gotten samples from the pharm rep the day Lexapro was released. He gave me 7 weeks worth, as well as 50 mg of Trazadone for sleep) Now, granted I am taking 2 drugs starting at the same time, but outside of the sedative effect at bedtime & constipation/painful bowel movements, I think most of the rest is probably Lexapro. I take Lex around late afternoon or dinnertime, and the Trazodone around 9 pm.
1) Inability to have an orgasm (libido not changed)
2)Nausea increased at times
3)**Slight** tremor of hands
4) Spaced out feeling, esp 12-5 pm
5) Painful bowel movements
6) abdominal pain
7) visual disturbances--periodic & almost like my glasses need a slightly stronger prescription.
8) Just in the last couple of days, I've developed mild dry mouth.
I see my doc today & will see what he says about it .
Posted by sjb on September 17, 2002, at 8:10:13
In reply to Re: LEXAPRO/lobotomy, posted by emf on September 16, 2002, at 14:14:28
I've been on it for 6 days now. I have no sexual dysfunction and feel it has enhanced it, if anything.
Posted by sjb on September 17, 2002, at 8:15:04
In reply to Re: Please Be Civil » reifiedbeans, posted by Mark H. on September 16, 2002, at 19:23:46
Has Dr. Bob given Mark H. and utopizen adminstration duties? If not, I suggest leaving the civility warnings to him.
Posted by johnj on September 17, 2002, at 9:18:55
In reply to Re: LEXAPRO/lobotomy, posted by sjb on September 17, 2002, at 8:10:13
Hi sjb,
What dose of lexapro are you taking? What other meds have you taken and are you taking anything else with the lexapro?
Posted by Christina on September 17, 2002, at 10:16:14
In reply to Re: weight change » fishgirl, posted by pharmrep on September 16, 2002, at 20:49:06
I gained more than 30 lbs on Celexa, and that's pretty average from what I've read.
If Lexapro touts the same "weight neutral" hogwash, I'm staying far away!
Posted by johnj on September 17, 2002, at 10:28:11
In reply to weight neutral my arse.... » pharmrep, posted by Christina on September 17, 2002, at 10:16:14
What AD doesn't cause weight gain?? Or most meds for that matter.
Posted by LLL on September 17, 2002, at 10:31:53
In reply to Re: weight neutral my arse.... » Christina, posted by johnj on September 17, 2002, at 10:28:11
Posted by pharmrep on September 17, 2002, at 11:44:09
In reply to My experience with Lexapro...so far , posted by seafari on September 17, 2002, at 8:04:16
> This is my first post on this board; I had looked at it a couple of weeks ago when researching Lexapro. To give you some background, I'm a woman in my thirties, & have been taking Klonopin (.5 twice daily) for about 3 years for GAD. I did a really slow taper off off it which was completed by the end of March. Towards the end of June, I became very worried about obtaining new health insurance as my old one was ending July 1. I started experiencing 27-7 stomach pain. An upper endo showed esophagitis & diffuse gastritis. I am on Nexium, and have had no problem with it. By then, though, my anxiety was non-stop. I lost 15 lbs in 3 weeks-- a total of 20 shortly thereafter. My doc put me back on Klonopin .5 3x daily. I had other medical tests done because I am still symptomatic for some other things. I felt the anxiety was pulling me down and finally realized around the first of September that I was becoming depressed as well.
>
> So...my doc gave me a sample box of Celexa which gave me instant dry mouth. When I saw the high evidence for nausea, I asked to skip this as I already had enough problems with nausea & lack of appetite.
>
> He had just gotten samples from the pharm rep the day Lexapro was released. He gave me 7 weeks worth, as well as 50 mg of Trazadone for sleep) Now, granted I am taking 2 drugs starting at the same time, but outside of the sedative effect at bedtime & constipation/painful bowel movements, I think most of the rest is probably Lexapro. I take Lex around late afternoon or dinnertime, and the Trazodone around 9 pm.
>
> 1) Inability to have an orgasm (libido not changed)
>
> 2)Nausea increased at times
>
> 3)**Slight** tremor of hands
>
> 4) Spaced out feeling, esp 12-5 pm
>
> 5) Painful bowel movements
>
> 6) abdominal pain
>
> 7) visual disturbances--periodic & almost like my glasses need a slightly stronger prescription.
>
> 8) Just in the last couple of days, I've developed mild dry mouth.
>
> I see my doc today & will see what he says about it .** remember...this is still a new drug in your system...it takes a little time to adjust...hang in there...(did i read you right?...the rep gave you samples...dont take from reps (illegal)...just DR's)
Posted by pharmrep on September 17, 2002, at 11:48:37
In reply to weight neutral my arse.... » pharmrep, posted by Christina on September 17, 2002, at 10:16:14
> I gained more than 30 lbs on Celexa, and that's pretty average from what I've read.
>
> If Lexapro touts the same "weight neutral" hogwash, I'm staying far away!**** no need to get nasty...I said everyone is different...the majority of patients on celexa didnt have a significant change of weight (4% of patients changed up or down 7% of total body weight) That's good compared to others and considered "neutral". sorry if you didnt see that...you just happen to be in that 4%. As for Lexapro...it might be the same for you..or it might be different.
Posted by LLL on September 17, 2002, at 12:07:52
In reply to Re: weight neutral » Christina, posted by pharmrep on September 17, 2002, at 11:48:37
There was nothing "nasty" in her posting, however your judgement of her comment as such was.
Posted by Lee M on September 17, 2002, at 12:26:11
In reply to Re: weight change » fishgirl, posted by pharmrep on September 16, 2002, at 20:49:06
I started Lexapro one week ago and I have not seen a change in my weight or appetite. I take 10mg and I do find myself being extremely tired throughout the day - no energy. But, at night I wake up several times and find it hard to fall back to sleep. My hands also shake ever so slightly at times. I know it hasn't been very long, but so far I'm not sure how I like it. I can't stand being so tired. If it does cause weight gain, I'd probably go off just for that reason as I am trying to lose weight which is one of the reasons for my depression.
Posted by sjb on September 17, 2002, at 13:11:16
In reply to Re: LEXAPRO/lobotomy » sjb, posted by johnj on September 17, 2002, at 9:18:55
I'm taking 10mg per day. I'm not on anything else and have six year history of over 25 different meds including most of the SSRIs, MAOI's, tricyclics, mood stabilizers and anti-psychotics. I can't remember all the specific ones, combinations and dosages.
Posted by NikkiT2 on September 17, 2002, at 14:13:18
In reply to Re: Please Be Civil - poster's police, posted by sjb on September 17, 2002, at 8:15:04
Yes, Dr Bob has given Mark H some administrative duties.. mainly handing out pbc's when needed.
Nikki
Posted by reifiedbeans on September 17, 2002, at 14:35:58
In reply to Re: weight neutral » pharmrep, posted by LLL on September 17, 2002, at 12:07:52
> There was nothing "nasty" in her posting, however your judgement of her comment as such was.
Her comment, calling Pharmrep's careful statement "hogwash", was nasty, as was LLL's response to Pharmrep (above).
Why would Mark H ask me to be civil for calling
Hawkeye an idiot when his advice was to "stay away" from Lexapro "unless you are a eunuch"?Such statements--that only "eunuchs" should take Lexapro or that the statistically valid claims of weight-neutrality are "hogwash" and "my arse"--are at best unconstructive and at worst rather nasty and misleading lies.
So, in an attempt to clear up some confusion, if I call the purveyors of such crap idiots or if Pharmrep describes the vitriol as "nasty", in what sense can that be seen as a breach of civility? The lines of politeness had already been crossed.
Last time I checked, calling somebody an idiot was not a crime, in part because it is clearly an expression of opinion. Making deliberately false and malicious statements, however, is a crime called slander. Both Hawkeye and Christina are guilty of it. Yet those who oppose their bullshit are given civility warnings?
Rather ironic when you consider that the root meaning of "civil" is law-abiding, that those opposing the slanderers are branded uncivil...
Posted by reifiedbeans on September 17, 2002, at 14:48:31
In reply to Re: LEXAPRO --,,, johnj's question fishgirl, posted by reifiedbeans on September 17, 2002, at 14:35:58
Posted by Mark H. on September 17, 2002, at 15:09:04
In reply to oops! above message about PBC, Mark H, LLL, Pharm (nm), posted by reifiedbeans on September 17, 2002, at 14:48:31
Reify,
I was responding to a specific complaint about your calling someone an idiot, and letting you know what's acceptable and what's not. Please read the FAQ on civility, and if you believe other people are violating the guidelines, then you're welcome to bring the matter to Dr. Bob's attention on the PB Admin board as well.
Thanks,
Mark H.
Posted by johnj on September 17, 2002, at 16:47:13
In reply to Re: weight change, posted by Lee M on September 17, 2002, at 12:26:11
Have you ever been on Celexa? Maybe your dose is too high if 10 mg is equal to 40 mg. What time of day do you take Lexapro? Thank you
johnj
Posted by hawkeye on September 17, 2002, at 18:19:27
In reply to Re: LEXAPRO --,,, johnj's question fishgirl, posted by reifiedbeans on September 17, 2002, at 14:35:58
Have you always been a jerk??? You may need more than Lexapro to cure your problem.
Posted by babs on September 17, 2002, at 18:22:36
In reply to Re: weight change » Lee M, posted by johnj on September 17, 2002, at 16:47:13
I just switched Thursday. I was om 60 mg of celexa and switched to 5 mg of lexapro. Today I went up to 10 mg of lexapro (and I'm assuming I'll end up at 15 if it's equal to 60 mg celexa) but I feel really sick. i have no appetite (I'm making myself eat), I'm achey, tired and basically I feel like I have the flu. I assume it's celexa withdrawal (although I thought the switch was supposed to be esay) since I'm on less. has anyone else felt this way?
Posted by Dr. Bob on September 17, 2002, at 19:03:27
In reply to Re: LEXAPRO --,,, johnj's question fishgirl, posted by reifiedbeans on September 17, 2002, at 14:35:58
> Last time I checked, calling somebody an idiot was not a crime, in part because it is clearly an expression of opinion. Making deliberately false and malicious statements, however, is a crime called slander. Both Hawkeye and Christina are guilty of it. Yet those who oppose their bullshit are given civility warnings?
Nobody's going to try to put you in jail, but this site is for support and education. Different opinions are fine, and in fact encouraged, but your freedom of speech is limited here. Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down or use language that could offend others:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Mark H. already asked you once to be civil, so now I'm going to block you from posting for a week.
Bob
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Posted by Dr. Bob on September 17, 2002, at 19:26:07
In reply to reified beans, posted by hawkeye on September 17, 2002, at 18:19:27
> > If Lexapro touts the same "weight neutral" hogwash, I'm staying far away!
>
> **** no need to get nasty...
>
> pharmrep> There was nothing "nasty" in her posting, however your judgement of her comment as such was.
>
> LLL> Have you always been a jerk???
>
> hawkeyePlease be sensitive to the feelings of others, even if they hurt yours, and don't post anything that could lead them to feel accused or put down, thanks.
Bob
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