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Posted by Reneeb on March 17, 2002, at 16:02:55
In reply to To Angel: » Angel Girl, posted by SueDoeN on March 17, 2002, at 14:14:01
> Hey Guys, I would love to be part of this chat room or email or whatever you decided to do.
Angel, I don't live in Canada. I live in the U.S. but how I look at it - it gives you a place to visit. I know we all have been in that dark ulgy place and it is so nice to have friends that understand...
hope to talk soon,
Renee
Posted by SueDoeN on March 17, 2002, at 16:40:54
In reply to Re: To Angel,Scott, Shanti and Sue, posted by Reneeb on March 17, 2002, at 16:02:55
> > Hey Guys, I would love to be part of this chat room or email or whatever you decided to do.
hope to talk soon,
>
>
> ReneeThat's great, Renee! Please drop me a line
SueDoeN@aol.comThanks!! I'll be waiting by the mailbox!
Sue
Posted by Angel Girl on March 17, 2002, at 16:51:58
In reply to To Angel: » Angel Girl, posted by SueDoeN on March 17, 2002, at 14:14:01
> That tells me enough, I know how to do the AOL buddy list thing. Just put me on your buddy list. (SueDoeN) What is your screen name?
> >
> Sincerely,
> SueDoeN
SueDoeNI'm scared. I've lost most of my friends this week and I can't go through that again. If I was to join, I am opening myself up to be abandoned. I'm REALLY scared. I'm EXTREMELY fragile right now. :(
I even sent my 'friends' that have abandoned me an email telling them how they have hurt me and even though one of them has been online, she never replied. I am so incredibly hurt and feel absolutely CRUSHED!!!!
Angel Girl
Posted by SueDoeN on March 17, 2002, at 17:01:00
In reply to Re: To Angel: SueDoeN, posted by Angel Girl on March 17, 2002, at 16:51:58
I'm scared. I've lost most of my friends this week and I can't go through that again. If I was to join, I am opening myself up to be abandoned. I'm REALLY scared. I'm EXTREMELY fragile right now. :(
>
I can't say I would always be here. Because sometimes my mania draws me off into strange lands. But maybe you can enjoy me when I'm here! Why don't you just put my name on your buddy list and you'll know when I am online. You don't need to write, just know I must be doing Okay whenever you see me here!
sincerely,
Sue
Posted by Reneeb on March 17, 2002, at 18:13:05
In reply to Nevergiveup: You're awesome!! » nevergiveup1962, posted by Sue Doe on March 15, 2002, at 21:26:23
Posted by Reneeb on March 17, 2002, at 18:25:33
In reply to Re: weird symptom, posted by Nei Gan on March 17, 2002, at 12:29:13
Thanks for the info!!!
Renee
Posted by Reneeb on March 17, 2002, at 19:16:30
In reply to Re: How do you deal with the loss of friends??? , posted by Angel Girl on March 17, 2002, at 2:28:08
> Hi Angel, I would like to be a friend. I know how it feels to lose and to be hurt by special people in your life. My parents weren't the greatest role models either. My father was extremely abusive and both were/are alcoholics. I watched as my father beat the hell out of my Mother and as I got older and would step in so my dad wouldn't get my Mother it would happen to me. I was told I would never amount to anything and Angel, I could go on for days... I can't imagine anything worse than being hurt by the two people that are suppose to love and nuture you. This wonderful beginning would lead me to many more heartbreaks with my sisters, brothers, friends and spouse. I was divorced when my daughter was three years old. Anyway, I can relate and I am a great listener. I would like to give you my email address. I used to be on aol know I am on earthlink, but use aol messanger. My email address is Reneeb724@earthlink.net
Anytime you need to talk.
Renee
Posted by Reneeb on March 17, 2002, at 19:27:58
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR? , posted by Shanti on March 16, 2002, at 15:07:30
> Hi Shanti, I have to say that you seem like a real sweetheart!! You have had many nice things to say to Angel that I thought were very encouraging. I hope that you are close enough to meet up with Angel. I live in a suburb of Chicago, Illinois. Not to close by , but a great road trip. LOL
Talk to you soon,
Renee
Posted by SusanG on March 17, 2002, at 19:54:15
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR? » Shanti, posted by Reneeb on March 17, 2002, at 19:27:58
Hey ladies, I too would be interested in chatting with each of you but I have so little free time. Could we maybe create a specific chat room and try to establish certain times when we might all get together to talk (such as Sunday mornings or Tuesday evenings for example)? I'm not so sure that would work since we are probably all in different time zones and have differing committments but I thought I might suggest it. I could use Yahoo or AOL of whatever worked for you. I appreciate the support each of you has provided for me and other people and would enjoy a more interactive method of "talking" and sharing with you. By the way, I have been off Effexor for a few weeks now and I think I am finally withdrawl symptom free except for the occasional fleeting waves of vertigo. Yipee! I have a bottle of Wellbutrin waiting for me to try but I am holding off to see if I can handle just being me. I also finally made contact with a psychiatrist so that someone other than my gyn can evaluate me and perhaps monitor my meds if I go that route. I have had a few scary "crash and burn" moments lately, one of which prompted my call to the psychiatrist. Wouldn't you know though, I called last Tuesday and her recording said she'd return all calls within 48 hours. It's Sunday night and I haven't heard from her....Anyway, let me know if any of you think this idea would work. Take care...
Posted by Shanti on March 17, 2002, at 20:10:23
In reply to Let's talk, posted by SusanG on March 17, 2002, at 19:54:15
hi susan great idea; i keep getting posts and want to respond and now have some e-mail addresses but limited time and sooo much to say!are you going to orgainize it? i live in Windsor, ON Canada ET Zone right now i am into my 5th month of a 1 year mat. leave so i do have a little more of an option for the time being.
hope to hear from you soon
peace
shanti
Posted by SusanG on March 17, 2002, at 21:05:42
In reply to Re: Let's talk, posted by Shanti on March 17, 2002, at 20:10:23
I'm glad you're interested Shanti. I am somewhat lame when it comes to this kind of thing and I was hoping someone else would have some great ideas of how to pull it off. If no one else does, I will bumble through. Volunteers?
Posted by Willow on March 17, 2002, at 21:40:42
In reply to Re: Let's talk, posted by SusanG on March 17, 2002, at 21:05:42
There is a small group of us that chat regularly at "psycho-babble open," a link is provided down below. We're usually there in the late evening but also if you post that chat is open on social some of the regulars will drop in regardless of the time. (It may take an hour or so.) It's always easier if you post a day and time in advance if you have a specific time in mind.
The more the merrier.
BEST WISHES
Willow
Posted by Shanti on March 17, 2002, at 21:42:12
In reply to Re: Let's talk, posted by SusanG on March 17, 2002, at 21:05:42
hi susan
your funny! you can do it but i can certainly help. i just emailed suedoe and let her know as well
why don't you get yours together and i'll get mine (maybe the same) then discuss times, etc. why don't you throw out the first time that you think would be good! and we will start from there. as for setting up a chat room "help" i would not be of assistance someone is going to have to walk me through on how to get there.
talk soon
peace
shanti
Posted by Shanti on March 17, 2002, at 21:42:45
In reply to Re: Let's talk, posted by SusanG on March 17, 2002, at 21:05:42
hi susan
your funny! you can do it but i can certainly help. i just emailed suedoe and let her know as well
why don't you get yours together and i'll get mine (maybe the same) then discuss times, etc. why don't you throw out the first time that you think would be good! and we will start from there. as for setting up a chat room "help" i would not be of assistance someone is going to have to walk me through on how to get there.
talk soon
peace
shanti
Posted by Reneeb on March 17, 2002, at 21:43:20
In reply to Let's talk, posted by SusanG on March 17, 2002, at 19:54:15
> Hey ladies, I too would be interested in chatting with each of you but I have so little free time. Could we maybe create a specific chat room and try to establish certain times when we might all get together to talk (such as Sunday mornings or Tuesday evenings for example)? I'm not so sure that would work since we are probably all in different time zones and have differing committments but I thought I might suggest it. I could use Yahoo or AOL of whatever worked for you. I appreciate the support each of you has provided for me and other people and would enjoy a more interactive method of "talking" and sharing with you. By the way, I have been off Effexor for a few weeks now and I think I am finally withdrawl symptom free except for the occasional fleeting waves of vertigo. Yipee! I have a bottle of Wellbutrin waiting for me to try but I am holding off to see if I can handle just being me. I also finally made contact with a psychiatrist so that someone other than my gyn can evaluate me and perhaps monitor my meds if I go that route. I have had a few scary "crash and burn" moments lately, one of which prompted my call to the psychiatrist. Wouldn't you know though, I called last Tuesday and her recording said she'd return all calls within 48 hours. It's Sunday night and I haven't heard from her....Anyway, let me know if any of you think this idea would work. Take care...
Hi Susan, we will have to come up with a good time for everyone. Where do you live? I guess better question is what time zone - LOLThis could work!
Take care,
Renee
Posted by SusanG on March 17, 2002, at 21:48:25
In reply to Re: Let's talk » SusanG, posted by Reneeb on March 17, 2002, at 21:43:20
I'm on the west coast...Pacific time. I would most often be available between 3:30 PM and 9 PM Pacific Time weekdays and just about anytime before 9 PM (Pacific) on weekends. I hope this works for everyone else. Take care...Sue
Posted by Shanti on March 17, 2002, at 23:19:47
In reply to Re: Let's talk, posted by SusanG on March 17, 2002, at 21:48:25
hi
must go to bed, must go to bed!
let me figure out the time difference and the day that would be good for me and then we will gather others as well and go from there
good night
shanti
Posted by pianoman on March 18, 2002, at 2:43:49
In reply to Anyone had success on Effexor XR? , posted by jp on October 24, 1999, at 14:59:14
Just recently requested to my doctor to go back on paxil. Years ago I was on xanax for a panic disorder without a phobia. Was on xanax for several years then weened myself off of that and went on paxil 40mg. I was trying this effexor months ago at 75mg and the last month or so 150mg for depression. I seemed to feel worse being on it so that is why I requested to go back on paxil.Wondering if I should ask to try this welbutrin some of you have mentioned.
Posted by maximillian on March 18, 2002, at 3:34:42
In reply to Re: ANGEL GIRL, WE ARE HERE FOR YOU!!!! - Shanti, posted by Angel Girl on March 14, 2002, at 23:41:55
'angel girl'...that's very pretty. jusy wanted to say hi. i've had a rough sunday. but, hey that's the game, right. good days...bad days. i'm om 150mg effexor and 150mg wellbutro' twice a day for both. its helped...give it a few days and you should notice some improvement. i still have ny spells, but what the hey...its the only game in town right now. nice name.
max
Posted by Shanti on March 18, 2002, at 4:13:39
In reply to angel girl, posted by maximillian on March 18, 2002, at 3:34:42
great attitude to have max! i just read the other day about how laughter is sometimes the best medicine. you certainly showed it here. i am taking 75mg of effexor i have no clue about combining meds what i found is fix other things in my life as well; ie. i hate veges&fruit so what i did was buy some high potency vitamins to make up for the lack of vitamins not being consumed throuh food.
i have trouble eating (hated food for the longest time) so i would literarely strave myself but not meaning too. just recently with a self discovery am i able to eat food now and actually think it is not bad.
so max what i am trying to say is - is there anything else you might need to adjust (ie. eating) because after my food thing i can finally see how food is important in the cycle of life (meaning when i don't eat but instead just smoke and drink lots of french vanilla capachinos (spl) my mind would literally have me thinking all sorts of things. because with the lack of food there is lack of everything and instead of staying in this place i have decided to let food be my friend so to speak and i really make myself eat (this is hard but when i do what a difference in thinking)
hope your days become brighter soon and keep up with the funnies it helps!
peace
shanti
Posted by Scott Hendrix on March 18, 2002, at 9:33:21
In reply to Just recently requested to discontinue effexor xr , posted by pianoman on March 18, 2002, at 2:43:49
With my personal experience with all of the mentioned drugs, I would ask to go on Prozac for your depression and Xanax for your Panic Attacks. Or if your doctor wont prescribe you xanax ask for Klonipin. I found the Prozac/Xanax prescription to work best for me, followed by Prozac/Klonipin- Klonipin stays in your system longer and I found builds up and caused me daytime drowsiness. I too am going to my Phyc. tommorrow to ask for the Pozac/Xanax Combo after my Reg. Medical Doctor suddenly took me off the xanax after 3 years on it. I was very productive on the combo, until the doctor started messing with the dosage of xanax and putting me on Klonipin at the same time. He did not tell me he was weaning me off of it. He just started reducing my strenghts down to the .25mg. Good Luck.. You know what I find amazing, is my doctor tried to put me on Effexxor and Klonipin, Instead of what was working Prozac and Xanax. I had a bad reaction to the Effexxor and demanded to be put back on Prozac. Question to the Room: Why would a doctor remove a person from one such drug Xanax, because it is addictive, and then turn around and put you on from what I have read a worse addictive drug Effexxor, and Klonipin is in the same class as Xanax so What is the reasoning behind it. Can anyone answer this??? I would love to hear your oppinions.
> Just recently requested to my doctor to go back on paxil. Years ago I was on xanax for a panic disorder without a phobia. Was on xanax for several years then weened myself off of that and went on paxil 40mg. I was trying this effexor months ago at 75mg and the last month or so 150mg for depression. I seemed to feel worse being on it so that is why I requested to go back on paxil.Wondering if I should ask to try this welbutrin some of you have mentioned.
Posted by JANNBEAU on March 18, 2002, at 17:10:27
In reply to More on happiness, peace » Shanti, posted by Sue Doe on March 16, 2002, at 0:01:45
> .....one last thing, i would like to comment about "teach how to be happy" believe it or not there are those of us out here who need to be taught this and i for one can say i learned how to be happy and continue to work on it everyday because some days it just ain't there so i try and try again!
> >
> > peace
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> > shanti
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> Your writing does hold a feeling of peace. Finding peace, I suppose is akin to finding happiness.
> But when it comes to emotions, I have learned to love the great diversity of emotions. Suffering can be rich and fulfilling. Does anyone agree, or is this more evidence of "mental illness"?
"Where there is sorrow there is holy ground."De Profundis
Posted by Shanti on March 18, 2002, at 18:33:11
In reply to Re: More on happiness, peace, posted by JANNBEAU on March 18, 2002, at 17:10:27
i agree with you jannbeau about the great diversity of emotions, i am just coming into that (this is usually my depression time) but with these posts, my husband and i communicating (amazingly while he is unemployed right now update- just got a job today!) and most importantly me allowing my self to feel a little anger, fustration the other day but not losing site completely and in the moment of the emotion i told my self it was ok to have but also integrate "love" with it - this is very complex to explain i actually never thought i would understand it but i finally do (as for finally - i obviously wasn't ready before and i am now) and this is also my way of integrating my depression into my life ( i truly believe i will have it forever but just to different degrees and also how i chose to utilize it instead of looking at it with fear and then making it worse.
i love your last quote. and no i don't think of it as a sign of mental illness i actually think of it as a sign of being closer to god for me because i find my thinking (through the use of drugs/alcohol as well) that i am always drawn to the spirits so i take this as an opportunity to learn. people who know me find me to be a "bit off center" that used to make me very sad (low self esteem) but funny thing is these are the very people that will seek me out when facing life's difficulties.
going back to your quote if i'm not mistaken didn't jesus suffer and he was/is the ultimate of holy!
peace
shanti
Posted by JANNBEAU on March 18, 2002, at 18:37:22
In reply to Re: where there is sorrow there is holy ground, posted by Shanti on March 18, 2002, at 18:33:11
Shanti, all I can say to your last post is "Amen"!! Thank you for being there for all of us. Good luck to you and your husband in his new job!
Jannbeau
Posted by Reneeb on March 18, 2002, at 20:16:20
In reply to Re: where there is sorrow there is holy ground, posted by Shanti on March 18, 2002, at 18:33:11
> i agree with you jannbeau about the great diversity of emotions, i am just coming into that (this is usually my depression time) but with these posts, my husband and i communicating (amazingly while he is unemployed right now update- just got a job today!) and most importantly me allowing my self to feel a little anger, fustration the other day but not losing site completely and in the moment of the emotion i told my self it was ok to have but also integrate "love" with it - this is very complex to explain i actually never thought i would understand it but i finally do (as for finally - i obviously wasn't ready before and i am now) and this is also my way of integrating my depression into my life ( i truly believe i will have it forever but just to different degrees and also how i chose to utilize it instead of looking at it with fear and then making it worse.
>
> i love your last quote. and no i don't think of it as a sign of mental illness i actually think of it as a sign of being closer to god for me because i find my thinking (through the use of drugs/alcohol as well) that i am always drawn to the spirits so i take this as an opportunity to learn. people who know me find me to be a "bit off center" that used to make me very sad (low self esteem) but funny thing is these are the very people that will seek me out when facing life's difficulties.
>
> going back to your quote if i'm not mistaken didn't jesus suffer and he was/is the ultimate of holy!
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> peace
>
> shanti
Shanti, I stopped breathing for a second when I read what you wrote "but funny thing is these are the very people that will seek me out when facing life's difficulties. Boy, can I relate to that.
Renee
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