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Posted by Dr. Bob on January 8, 2002, at 19:42:14
In reply to Re: Recovered and Happy! No More Drugs for Me!!, posted by zekingprawn on January 8, 2002, at 11:25:19
> Let's not bring God into this...
Bringing God into this is OK, but should be done at Psycho-Social-Babble rather than here. Thanks,
Bob
PS: And any discussion about what should be posted where should take place at Psycho-Babble Administration.
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 8, 2002, at 19:56:07
In reply to Re: Recovered and Happy! No More Drugs for Me!! » Dolphin, posted by Cam W. on January 7, 2002, at 0:03:44
> Please back up your statements with scientific evidence. "Opinions" don't hold much water...
>
> What are "sea vegetables"? What you are describing sounds like manna, or more frighteningly, "Soylent Green"...I understand that you're skeptical and want more information, but please don't be sarcastic or put pressure on others, thanks.
Bob
Posted by JANNBEAU on January 9, 2002, at 10:43:49
In reply to Redirect: Depression and history, posted by Dr. Bob on January 8, 2002, at 19:30:26
> Here's a link:
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20020102/msgs/16409.html
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> Thanks for thinking of redirecting this piece,
>
> BobThanks for the link, Dr. Bob.
Cheers,
JannBeau
Posted by Cindylou on January 9, 2002, at 12:46:10
In reply to Re: please be civil « [exasperated sigh!] (nm), posted by Cam W. on January 8, 2002, at 20:50:43
Posted by nean on January 10, 2002, at 10:16:23
In reply to Re: Effexor XR cold turkey, posted by nean on January 4, 2002, at 14:45:25
Just wanted to report in. Mainly for new people like me who wonder on to this site. I've been off for 8 days after taking 150mg for almost a year. I don't feel 100%, but the worse of it seems to be over for me. I can at least function now. Thanks again for being out here as a source of information.
Posted by JANNBEAU on January 10, 2002, at 13:31:56
In reply to Re: Effexor XR cold turkey, posted by nean on January 10, 2002, at 10:16:23
> Just wanted to report in. Mainly for new people like me who wonder on to this site. I've been off for 8 days after taking 150mg for almost a year. I don't feel 100%, but the worse of it seems to be over for me. I can at least function now. Thanks again for being out here as a source of information.
Nean, that's wonderful news. Gives me hope that I can do it, too. I told my doctor about problems others have had and she said she had never had a patient who had significant difficulty witdrawing from Effexor--didn't know what to believe, but was already taking the medication, so your experience is reassuring. Thanks!
JannBeau
Posted by melmel on January 10, 2002, at 14:06:11
In reply to Anyone had success on Effexor XR? , posted by jp on October 24, 1999, at 14:59:14
i've been on effexor xr for approx 2 months now, 225 mg in the morning. i've noticed lately that when i first get up, before i take the medicine, if i wave my hand in front of my face (or another object moves by), it has a trailer behind it. (by trailer i mean like a tail following behind, kind of hallucinogenic) very weird. anyone else experience this?
Posted by IsoM on January 10, 2002, at 15:05:47
In reply to new side effect, posted by melmel on January 10, 2002, at 14:06:11
I'm not going to be of much help to you but I always have had it, meds or not. It seems to part of the package that's described in the subsyndromal epilepsy questionnaire on another page on Dr. Bob's site. It's never bothered me though.
> i've been on effexor xr for approx 2 months now, 225 mg in the morning. i've noticed lately that when i first get up, before i take the medicine, if i wave my hand in front of my face (or another object moves by), it has a trailer behind it. (by trailer i mean like a tail following behind, kind of hallucinogenic) very weird. anyone else experience this?
Posted by ddurkee on January 10, 2002, at 15:15:02
In reply to What to do? , posted by Kara on January 18, 2001, at 9:50:42
I'm curious that you were diagnosed with anemia. I've been on Effexor for clinical depression for about 6 weeks. A couple weeks before I started the drug, I donated blood, and had no problems doing so. However, today, my hematocrit reading (iron) was too low. I'm waiting to hear from my doctor if it's an interaction from the drug (don't you just love doctors?) but I'm curious if the low iron count is a result of the drug, seeing as I've never had that problem when giving blood before.
Posted by Teva on January 10, 2002, at 20:34:01
In reply to new side effect, posted by melmel on January 10, 2002, at 14:06:11
> i've been on effexor xr for approx 2 months now, 225 mg in the morning. i've noticed lately that when i first get up, before i take the medicine, if i wave my hand in front of my face (or another object moves by), it has a trailer behind it. (by trailer i mean like a tail following behind, kind of hallucinogenic) very weird. anyone else experience this?
Absolutely! I found that it was especially bad if I missed a day. I hope it clears up for you.
Teva
Posted by sweet_slider on January 11, 2002, at 2:10:08
In reply to Re: What to do? , posted by ddurkee on January 10, 2002, at 15:15:02
I noticed the same thing when I went to give blood, it came up on the first machine(or initial test that they do)as too low but then they did a second test and my count was low but acceptable in their terms to give blood.
Dr. Bob do you have any idea if that is a side effect or just coincidence? I have been on Effexor XR for 5 months now and I have never had a problem with low iron before.
Posted by sid on January 11, 2002, at 8:15:47
In reply to Re: What to do? }}ddurkee Dr. Bob, posted by sweet_slider on January 11, 2002, at 2:10:08
Perhaps it has to do with Effexor, but it could just be that you give blood too often. I used to give blood every... (minimum allowed interval between blood giving at the Red Cross - can't remember; 2 or 3 months?), and at some point I had the same problem. I was told to wait a while because I had given too often and my blood needed more time to rebuild correctly.
> I noticed the same thing when I went to give blood, it came up on the first machine(or initial test that they do)as too low but then they did a second test and my count was low but acceptable in their terms to give blood.
> Dr. Bob do you have any idea if that is a side effect or just coincidence? I have been on Effexor XR for 5 months now and I have never had a problem with low iron before.
Posted by ddurkee on January 11, 2002, at 9:37:18
In reply to Re: What to do? }}ddurkee Dr. Bob » sweet_slider, posted by sid on January 11, 2002, at 8:15:47
True, and even though the last time I gave blood was only 8 weeks ago, the time before that was 2-3 years. I did look up some information on Wyeth's website and found that anemia is listed as an infrequent side effect, as opposed to a frequent or rare side effect. Still waiting to hear from my doctor! Thanks for the thoughts.
Posted by sweet_slider on January 11, 2002, at 13:33:32
In reply to Re: What to do? }}ddurkee Dr. Bob » sweet_slider, posted by sid on January 11, 2002, at 8:15:47
That could also be very true but in my case it was my first time donating blood and also it has come up on independent blood tests that my iron was low, I was having surgery and they had to give me extra IV's of something to make sure I had enough for surgery. I don't know much about blood and iron counts so I can't begin to speculate why it was low but I think it may have to do with one of the medications I am on, perhaps not the Effexor XR.
Cheers!
Posted by JANNBEAU on January 11, 2002, at 18:00:07
In reply to Re: What to do? }} Sid, posted by sweet_slider on January 11, 2002, at 13:33:32
OK, At this point, I cannot resist putting my two cents in here.
There are many types of anemias. Iron deficiency anemia is a SIGN of an illness, not the illness itself. Although there may be many reasons for the finding, a very important cause for IDA is BLOOD LOSS. In the absence of conclusive evidence to the contrary, all IDA must be considered the result of blood loss until proved otherwise. In addition to acute blood loss, slow, insidious loss of blood over a long period of time (sometimes years; and including menstrual loss) will result in the so-called "iron deficiency" anemias.
If you have a diagnosis, then disregard this message. Otherwise, I suggest that you request an appointment with a competent internist for a work-up.
Also, many of the reported "side effects" of any drug are the result of post-marketing voluntary reporting of observations of individual patients in which the drug may not be the causal agent. Only well-designed double-blind clinical trials of sufficient size to detect rare occurrances of side effects can separate out these effects. On the other hand, such studies are difficult to do and, often, the more rare side effects of a drug can't be distinguished in the types of premarketing investigations mandated by the FDA.
Cheers,
JANNBEAU>That could also be very true but in my case it was my first time donating blood and also it has come up on independent blood tests that my iron was low, I was having surgery and they had to give me extra IV's of something to make sure I had enough for surgery. I don't know much about blood and iron counts so I can't begin to speculate why it was low but I think it may have to do with one of the medications I am on, perhaps not the Effexor XR.
> Cheers!
Posted by ddurkee on January 11, 2002, at 18:43:29
In reply to Re: What to do? }} Sid » sweet_slider, posted by JANNBEAU on January 11, 2002, at 18:00:07
My doctor did get in touch with me today and I had blood drawn for a complete blood count and some iron level testing. She says it's not the medication. I still find it odd though that I was perfectly fine donating blood two months ago, and my period is actually next week. Well, we'll see what happens! Thanks for the thoughts everyone, and sorry my last post came up three times... I kept getting proxy errors when posting from work and thought it didn't post. Silly firewalls!
Posted by Paulio on January 12, 2002, at 13:57:36
In reply to Anyone had success on Effexor XR? , posted by jp on October 24, 1999, at 14:59:14
Hello...I am new to this group. After a month and a half of battling depression I finally went to the doctor. He prescribed me Effexor XR 75mg per day. I found this bulletin board researching the drug. Half of what I've read is encouraging, the other half scares the daylights out of me. I've had depression twice before. Was on Prozac at first (2 weeks of euphoria, then nothing). I was switched to Wellbutrin with Trazodone to sleep and that combo didn't sit well with me either. So
here I sit with this bottle of Effexor XR wondering to start on it or not. The withdrawal stories scare the hell out of me. Any advice ????
Posted by NikkiT2 on January 12, 2002, at 15:19:18
In reply to Re: Effexor XR cold turkey » nean, posted by JANNBEAU on January 10, 2002, at 13:31:56
I think its important to withdraw from effexor slowly, so please don't do cold turkey... some people are fine, some aren't - is it worth the risk?? After 7 days cold turkeying from effexor I went back on it.. my pdoc also contacted the makers he was so concerned and they admitted to some instances of problems.
By withdrawing slowly there seems to be little problem, maybe a few, but not alot.. so reduce your amount slowly over about 3 - 4 weeks and see how that goes.
Good luck,
Nikki
Posted by MaKi on January 12, 2002, at 19:25:50
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR? , posted by Paulio on January 12, 2002, at 13:57:36
Hi Paulio,
I don't think you have anything to worry about Effexor XR.
I've been on the medication for almost six weeks now and I
have never once yet experienced any side effects. As for the
withdrawal part, I don't think you should dwell on that just
yet, just worry about getting better first, then once it's time
to get off the medication, you can think about it then.Good luck,
MaKi
Posted by michelle a. on January 13, 2002, at 13:00:14
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR? , posted by Paulio on January 12, 2002, at 13:57:36
i did the same as you, did some research on effexor before taking it and stumbled upon this site. i was looking for an alternative to paxil because of the sexual side effects, and had heard that effexor was better in that area. so i tried it. i found that it was no different as far as the side effects, and when i missed a couple of dosed by accident, boy, what a freaky feeling!! my doctor prescribed wellbutrin to help with the sexual side effects, and it did help a little. but then i thought, why take this if it's not helping the problem i had in the first place? so i asked my dr. if i could just wean off the effexor and do the wellbutrin by itself. i had taken it before but had headaches, but this time around wasn't getting them. so she agreed. but the weaning off!!! i was on 150 mg (xr) and went to 75 for a week, then 37.5 for a week, and stopped (her directions). way too fast. very dizzy, to the point of being nausious (sp). so i then did 37.5 every other day for a week and then stopped. STILL had the side effects. so it came to just taking it when i couldn't stand it anymore, and now i'm off of it, but not without a lot of frustration and dizziness. i still get that feel-like-i'm-falling effect sometimes, but not as bad as before and very few and far between. to sum up: i didn't like it, but a lot of people have had success. if you do go on it and then decide that it isn't for you, just make sure to wean off, and it would be a good idea to have a psychiatrist do it, not a gp like i had. they go by the "book" and the book isn't always like real life. but my gp didn't know that because she's not a psychiatrist. good luck!!!!
Posted by cmcdougall on January 13, 2002, at 14:57:36
In reply to new side effect, posted by melmel on January 10, 2002, at 14:06:11
Hi,
I took effexor xr for about 18 months & was taking 150mg twice a day. I started to have the "tracer" or "trailer" effect too. It only lasted a short while right when I woke up in the mornings. My pdoc said he had heard of that, but not to worry about it, so I didn't. Unfortunately, the effexor pooped-out and withdrawal was TERRIBLE. While it worked tho', it worked good and not everyone has horrible withdrawal.
Good luck,
Carly
> i've been on effexor xr for approx 2 months now, 225 mg in the morning. i've noticed lately that when i first get up, before i take the medicine, if i wave my hand in front of my face (or another object moves by), it has a trailer behind it. (by trailer i mean like a tail following behind, kind of hallucinogenic) very weird. anyone else experience this?
Posted by babyface on January 13, 2002, at 17:04:15
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR? , posted by michelle a. on January 13, 2002, at 13:00:14
i had taken it before but had headaches, but this time around wasn't getting them. so she agreed. but the weaning off!!! i was on 150 mg (xr) and went to 75 for a week, then 37.5 for a week, and stopped (her directions). way too fast. very dizzy, to the point of being nausious (sp). so i then did 37.5 every other day for a week and then stopped. STILL had the side effects. so it came to just taking it when i couldn't stand it anymore, and now i'm off of it, but not without a lot of frustration and dizziness. i still get that feel-like-i'm-falling effect sometimes, but not as bad as before and very few and far between. to sum up: i didn't like it, but a lot of people have had success. if you do go on it and then decide that it isn't for you, just make sure to wean off, and it would be a good idea to have a psychiatrist do it, not a gp like i had. they go by the "book" and the book isn't always like real life. but my gp didn't know that because she's not a psychiatrist. good luck!!!!
Hi,
Just read your advice on going off Effexor slower than per week. I take 21/2 tablets of 75 mg a day.
My psych. told me to go off half a dose a week, do you think that that is slow enough?
I freak because I also feel the fuzzy head feeling after missing one dose a day so I am scared to go off to quick. Anyone have experience with going off half a dose a week?
Thanks for any feedback.
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 13, 2002, at 18:10:18
In reply to Re: posting problems, posted by Dr. Bob on January 4, 2002, at 1:18:52
> Best as I can tell, the problem was the server taking too long to email notifications (since this is such a long thread). So now I'm limiting it to just the most recent dozen. Let's see how that works...
I guess it's still a problem. So please be aware that posts to this thread may take a long time (possibly a few minutes) to be processed. I think I have a way to speed it up, but it'll take me some time to make the change. Thanks for your patience,
Bob
> PS: Follow-ups about posting problems should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration, etc.
Posted by broadville on January 14, 2002, at 12:03:47
In reply to Anyone had success on Effexor XR? , posted by jp on October 24, 1999, at 14:59:14
I just started Effexor for the second time and as far as the Sexual side effects are concerned is it possible to mix Effexor for the depression and add on the Wellbutrin for the increase in sex drive--has anyone tried this.
I also was on Depo Provera which seriously gave me a poor libido...
Thanks in advance
Posted by petters on January 15, 2002, at 1:21:45
In reply to Anyone tried an Effexor Wellbutrin mix for sexual , posted by broadville on January 14, 2002, at 12:03:47
> I just started Effexor for the second time and as far as the Sexual side effects are concerned is it possible to mix Effexor for the depression and add on the Wellbutrin for the increase in sex drive--has anyone tried this.
>
> I also was on Depo Provera which seriously gave me a poor libido...
>
> Thanks in advanceHi...
I would very strongly recommend Remeron as an add on strategi. It is very usefull in this aspect.
Best Wishes...//Petters
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