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Posted by Irene on May 3, 2001, at 11:55:35
In reply to Effexor withdrawl, posted by betternow on May 3, 2001, at 8:28:40
Well, I just finished tapering off. Been at 0 for a few days now. All of April I had been trying to come down from just 10 granules. I just saw my psychiatrist, and after listening to me describe the symptoms I no longer have, and the symptoms that I do have, she is sure that the fatigue, anxiety, nausea, and dizziness (not the eyeball positional vertigo - that one is gone) are symptoms of the underlying anxiety/depression unmasked.
So it's back on meds. Although Effexor did great while I was on it, I told her that I would like to try soomething else this time. So, tonight, I'll be starting Serzone. anyone tried Serzone?
And what do you guys think. Do you think I've waited long enough to see if I've truly gotten past the Effexor withdrawal? and that it's time to accept that I need meds? It's disappointing that after the 5 month ordeal of coming off Effexor, I find out I really should just have stayed on the med. :-(
Irene> To all who have experienced Effexor withdrawl:
>
> You get off this agent the same way you got on it, by slowly reducing the dose. Safe to add prozac as you move the Effexor down and out. This protocol should be explained to you by you M.D. If she/he is not aware of this, find a new one.
Posted by mstar on May 3, 2001, at 13:05:09
In reply to Re: Effexor withdrawl, posted by Irene on May 3, 2001, at 11:55:35
I am now on 4 weeks of Effexor XR. I worked my way up to 150 mg and it is finally working. I am sorry to all the people who has suffered from this drug and from the symptoms of depression.
I don't ever want to stop taking antidepressants. It is so hard to know that I will be on meds if I want to stay healthy all my life, and I am in the arts so my finances were never, ever stable enough to afford this kind of expense but... I feel like the weight of the world has lifted from me and I don't ever want to go back. I have suffered from depression for years and my major episodes have gotten progressively worse. I would rather stay on than try to "get better" and then get off and then have to go back on.
Some of the interesting things I have learned from my own experience and reading this board is that we need to distinguish between depression symptoms and medicine side affects. I think the two are so close and interwoven that it is hard to know if it's your sickness and or your drug. If I can give you any advise, don't act rash, know yourself and keep a log of how you feel, what you eat, what your dose is and what time of day it is. This is a great way to track and log your moods and know your patterns, symptoms and depressive moods. Doctors and Medicines are not there to hurt you. Yeah, they are expensive, and yes, you can't control them and may react adversely to them, but you could also get hit driving down the street. Life is all chance. Please don't let your own experiences disway others from using drugs and doctors to get well from the sickness of depression. The fact that there is more negativity than positive remarks on this board has more to do with our unhappiness than the failure of Effexor.
My best wishes to anyone struggling with depression, may you find the right drug and find peace (it does exist!). And to those suffering from withdrawl, please take it slow and go easy on yourself and others. I hope you will eventually find the right medication and not be totally turned off to an option which could help get your life on track.
Ms
Posted by willow on May 3, 2001, at 20:09:49
In reply to On Meds to stay, posted by mstar on May 3, 2001, at 13:05:09
> I am now on 4 weeks of Effexor XR. I worked my way up to 150 mg and it is finally working.
Ms
150 must be the magical dose because I too started to feel quite "normal" at this level. You worked upto it alot quicker than myself, it took me around three months, increasing by 37.5 every three weeks.
I had side-effects but the benefits were more beneficial than they were a hindrance. Now at 150 the side-effects are almost nil, they don't affect my daily living.
A good observation about the physical symptoms regarding depression/anxiety. For myself this is what I mostly get. Maybe you have to go around the block numerous times to be able to identify what the symptoms are?
Glad you're feeling good, like myself!
Willow
Posted by RJC on May 3, 2001, at 22:27:45
In reply to Re: On Meds to stay, posted by willow on May 3, 2001, at 20:09:49
I've also been on 150 a day for 13 months now and the only side effects are that I sweat like a bastard and do feel very tired by days end.
I'm going to try getting of them now because even though I feel good I don't think that they can be good for you.But according to all of the above it seems like it may be hard to do.
RC
> > I am now on 4 weeks of Effexor XR. I worked my way up to 150 mg and it is finally working.
>
> Ms
>
> 150 must be the magical dose because I too started to feel quite "normal" at this level. You worked upto it alot quicker than myself, it took me around three months, increasing by 37.5 every three weeks.
>
> I had side-effects but the benefits were more beneficial than they were a hindrance. Now at 150 the side-effects are almost nil, they don't affect my daily living.
>
> A good observation about the physical symptoms regarding depression/anxiety. For myself this is what I mostly get. Maybe you have to go around the block numerous times to be able to identify what the symptoms are?
>
> Glad you're feeling good, like myself!
>
> Willow
Posted by mstar on May 3, 2001, at 23:40:38
In reply to Re: On Meds to stay, posted by RJC on May 3, 2001, at 22:27:45
RJC
I'm wondering, if they help, why don't you think they are good for you?
ms
Posted by RJC on May 4, 2001, at 0:07:41
In reply to Re: On Meds to stay, posted by mstar on May 3, 2001, at 23:40:38
I don't think that any medication can be actually good for you especially one that is directly related to the brain.Sure, it definately helped me out, but I'm worried about the long term effects.(Physical ones and mentally ones)
> RJC
>
> I'm wondering, if they help, why don't you think they are good for you?
>
> ms
Posted by Seraphim on May 4, 2001, at 9:03:58
In reply to Anyone had success on Effexor XR? , posted by jp on October 24, 1999, at 14:59:14
I've been weaning now for two months. 300mg down to 37.5mg. Now I'm stuck. It's been almost three weeks and my body isn't adjusting to the 37.5. I know, take it slow, follow previous advice, etc...
The real problem now is NIGHTMARES. I've experienced the vivid dreaming, waking repeatedly throughout the night, feeling like I have the flu (especially in the morning),migraines, but it's nothing compared to the nightmares I've been experiencing lately. I guess I should admit that nightmares have been a problem in the past, but it's been years since I've awaken screaming or terrified. Is it me, or has anyone else weaning from Effexor experiencing the same? They are more realistic and vivid than I thought imaginable and I have a hard time letting them go. Any advice is welcome.Seraphim
Posted by Seraphim on May 4, 2001, at 9:11:48
In reply to Anyone had success on Effexor XR? , posted by jp on October 24, 1999, at 14:59:14
My vision has deteriorated over the past year. Since I have been weaning from the Effexor I have experienced more blurred vision, tunnel-vision, spots in the peripheral, and the wiggly, electric feeling. Thank God not all at once or all the time. Yesterday I went to the eye doctor on my lunch hour. It was just a regular eye exam, but it made me dizzy, extremely nauseas (threw up a few times) and brought on a killer migraine. That's never happened to me before. I didn't go back to work, but crawled into bed. Anyone else experienced anything similar?
Posted by Seraphim on May 4, 2001, at 9:20:11
In reply to Wean slowly..very, very, slowly......., posted by Leo on May 1, 2001, at 9:50:13
Leo,
Can you share with us what the doctor who specializes in withdrawal is recommending or prescribing to your friend? I don't know how much longer I can stick with this on my own and am hesitant to add in new drugs, but if I don't find some kind of relief soon I'm going to throw myself at the feet of my doctor and beg for help.
Seraphim
> Wanted to let everyone know that I have a friend that was on 300mg daily of effexor. I didn't know that she was even taking the drug until just recently. Her doctor decided it was time to for her to discontinue the drug so he started her on the weaning process by cutting her dosage in half. Her first two weeks were met with mild to moderate withdrawal. He then cut her back to 75mg a day. She has been hospitalized for the last week and a half. She has had hallucinations, severe nausea, violent mode swings, has been unable to work, and experienced several of the other side effects to the point of hospitalization. Her doctor didn't have a clue as to the withdrawal from the drug and was forced to turn her case over to another doctor who specializes in drug withdrawal. They don't expect to release her from the hospital for another week or two.
>
> Make sure that you are taking these posts to your doctors. Make sure that they are reading them. I've been involved in posting information on this site for several months now. It is probably one of the best on the net for information concerning effexor. Use what you are reading here to educate and create awareness about this drug. Use it to educate and inform your doctors. It could save someones life.
>
> Regards,
> Leo
Posted by Irene on May 4, 2001, at 13:59:27
In reply to Weaning from Effexor - Eye exam, posted by Seraphim on May 4, 2001, at 9:11:48
> My vision also deteriorated as I was weaning from Effexor (also happened as I was just starting on it). I've been off it for a few days now, and my vision is getting much better. I think it's whenever there is a change in dosage that vision changes as well.
I also had the terrible what I call the "eyeball positional vertigo" with the electic shock sensation and roaring sound in the ears many people have described. It was very severe every time I did a step decrease. Then it subsides after a week or so. I don't recall the tunnel-vision or spots though. Good luck with the weaning.
Irene> My vision has deteriorated over the past year. Since I have been weaning from the Effexor I have experienced more blurred vision, tunnel-vision, spots in the peripheral, and the wiggly, electric feeling. Thank God not all at once or all the time. Yesterday I went to the eye doctor on my lunch hour. It was just a regular eye exam, but it made me dizzy, extremely nauseas (threw up a few times) and brought on a killer migraine. That's never happened to me before. I didn't go back to work, but crawled into bed. Anyone else experienced anything similar?
Posted by Leo on May 4, 2001, at 19:09:56
In reply to Re: Wean slowly..very, very, slowly......., posted by Seraphim on May 4, 2001, at 9:20:11
> Leo,
>
> Can you share with us what the doctor who specializes in withdrawal is recommending or prescribing to your friend? I don't know how much longer I can stick with this on my own and am hesitant to add in new drugs, but if I don't find some kind of relief soon I'm going to throw myself at the feet of my doctor and beg for help.
>
> Seraphim
>
>
>
Seraphim,I don't know what the protocol being used is. I do know that she was weaned from the drug way to fast. She had been on effexor for almost two years and had know idea about the side effects or the withdrawal. Obviously, her doctor didn't either. She is still hospitalized and I know that she was put back on the effexor until the doctors figure out what to do. My understanding is that she will remain there until she is off the drug completely with no side effects or symptoms of withdrawal. I don't have all the details but evidently it was much worse than I had been told. That's all I know up to this point. I stopped by to see her and she was in a really bad mood so I didn't stay long. I could relate to how she was feeling. I know that she is outraged over the condition she has been placed in by this drug. I think she's got a long way to go before she is back to where she wants to be physically and emotionally. FYI, this woman is 28 years old and works out 1-2 hours every day at the gym. She really takes care of herself physically. She had noticed that, as time progressed, she was becoming more and more tired after each work out and was taking longer to recover. She wanted to get off the effexor because she felt like her life was improving after a bad marriage and divorce. Her doctor agreed. She was totally broad sided by the weaning of the drug and now has to deal with what will most likely be a long, long recovery period.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help but I'll keep you posted as I get news. In the meantime, try to continue your weaning process. I know that it's hard but trust me, it is worth every minute. You will feel a thousand percent better after you've gotten this terrible drug out of your body.
Regards,
Leo
Posted by willow on May 4, 2001, at 20:23:54
In reply to Re: On Meds to stay, posted by RJC on May 4, 2001, at 0:07:41
"I don't think that any medication can be actually good for you especially one that is directly related to the brain."
What if it was related to the heart, etc.? What difference would it make if it improves our lives to the point where we can live normally.
"Sure, it definately helped me out, but I'm worried about the long term effects.(Physical ones and mentally ones)"
Mentally my memory and concentration has improved, still not back to normal but a definte improvement. Physically yes I too sweat, though I'm more tolerable of temperature changes.
I've suffered from heat strokes easily where other people probably wouldn't have even broke into a sweat, so physically this is an better for my body and brain.
Now I'm not saying that everyone who has a "sad" or "trying" moment in their lives should take an AD, but if their symptoms are impairing their ability to care for themselves, maintain a living, and have a social life, the ADs are not harming them physically or mentally.
Just one of my many opinions.
Willow
Posted by willow on May 4, 2001, at 20:24:33
In reply to Re: On Meds to stay, posted by RJC on May 4, 2001, at 0:07:41
"I don't think that any medication can be actually good for you especially one that is directly related to the brain."
What if it was related to the heart, etc.? What difference would it make if it improves our lives to the point where we can live normally.
"Sure, it definately helped me out, but I'm worried about the long term effects.(Physical ones and mentally ones)"
Mentally my memory and concentration has improved, still not back to normal but a definte improvement. Physically yes I too sweat, though I'm more tolerable of temperature changes.
I've suffered from heat strokes easily where other people probably wouldn't have even broke into a sweat, so physically this is an better for my body and brain.
Now I'm not saying that everyone who has a "sad" or "trying" moment in their lives should take an AD, but if their symptoms are impairing their ability to care for themselves, maintain a living, and have a social life, the ADs are not harming them physically or mentally.
Just one of my many opinions.
Willow
Posted by Joy on May 5, 2001, at 3:03:24
In reply to Re: On Meds to stay, posted by willow on May 4, 2001, at 20:23:54
I agree. 40 mg Prozac makes me feel normal and content; not over anxious or depressed. I'm on it to stay, and I'll probably live longer.
Joy
> "I don't think that any medication can be actually good for you especially one that is directly related to the brain."
>
> What if it was related to the heart, etc.? What difference would it make if it improves our lives to the point where we can live normally.
>
> "Sure, it definately helped me out, but I'm worried about the long term effects.(Physical ones and mentally ones)"
>
> Mentally my memory and concentration has improved, still not back to normal but a definte improvement. Physically yes I too sweat, though I'm more tolerable of temperature changes.
>
> I've suffered from heat strokes easily where other people probably wouldn't have even broke into a sweat, so physically this is an better for my body and brain.
>
> Now I'm not saying that everyone who has a "sad" or "trying" moment in their lives should take an AD, but if their symptoms are impairing their ability to care for themselves, maintain a living, and have a social life, the ADs are not harming them physically or mentally.
>
> Just one of my many opinions.
>
> Willow
Posted by mstar on May 5, 2001, at 10:38:07
In reply to Re: On Meds to stay, posted by Joy on May 5, 2001, at 3:03:24
I am so much healthier now that I care about my appearance and health. Without constant stress and anxiety I think I will live a happier, healthier life. I think that happiness contributes more to health than genetics or traditional health care ever can. Thanks for your words of encouragement.I haven't had a panic attack in 2 weeks before last night, and now I really know how good I have been feeling.
take care!
ms
Posted by hf on May 5, 2001, at 22:43:37
In reply to Re: Wean slowly..very, very, slowly....... » Seraphim, posted by Leo on May 4, 2001, at 19:09:56
> > Leo,
> >
> > Can you share with us what the doctor who specializes in withdrawal is recommending or prescribing to your friend? I don't know how much longer I can stick with this on my own and am hesitant to add in new drugs, but if I don't find some kind of relief soon I'm going to throw myself at the feet of my doctor and beg for help.
> >
> > Seraphim
> >
> >
> >
> Seraphim,
>
> I don't know what the protocol being used is. I do know that she was weaned from the drug way to fast. She had been on effexor for almost two years and had know idea about the side effects or the withdrawal. Obviously, her doctor didn't either. She is still hospitalized and I know that she was put back on the effexor until the doctors figure out what to do. My understanding is that she will remain there until she is off the drug completely with no side effects or symptoms of withdrawal. I don't have all the details but evidently it was much worse than I had been told. That's all I know up to this point. I stopped by to see her and she was in a really bad mood so I didn't stay long. I could relate to how she was feeling. I know that she is outraged over the condition she has been placed in by this drug. I think she's got a long way to go before she is back to where she wants to be physically and emotionally. FYI, this woman is 28 years old and works out 1-2 hours every day at the gym. She really takes care of herself physically. She had noticed that, as time progressed, she was becoming more and more tired after each work out and was taking longer to recover. She wanted to get off the effexor because she felt like her life was improving after a bad marriage and divorce. Her doctor agreed. She was totally broad sided by the weaning of the drug and now has to deal with what will most likely be a long, long recovery period.
>
> Sorry I couldn't be of more help but I'll keep you posted as I get news. In the meantime, try to continue your weaning process. I know that it's hard but trust me, it is worth every minute. You will feel a thousand percent better after you've gotten this terrible drug out of your body.
>
> Regards,
> LeoBoy, I wish I'd NEVER been put on Effexor. I was on Prozac for 2 years and then put on Effexor XR 375 mg about 3 years. Now that I look back and compare to the side effects, I think that most of the problems where caused by the "cure". I had to back off of it when I got severe food poisoning and couldn't keep anything down. ANYthing in my stomach just wouldn't stay there. Well....that started the LONG trip of withdrawal. I mentioned to my Dr. that I had felt really terrible when I couldn't take my EXR due to the food poisoning adventure. I had come upon some of the horror stories of Effexor withdrawal on the internet and mentioned what I had read to him. That was the first time in 3 years that he EVER acknowledged the truth about the drug. That was the day that I made the conscious decision to get off of the stuff. He had me on Wellbutrin, too. I think that the side effects were what were being treated. Since I started coming off of this stuff I have had excruciating body/muscle pain; extremely exacerbated GERD; a very tuned out feeling in my head; visual disturbances; very low blood pressure; and who knows what else is connected to the withdrawal??!! I haven't done this fast. Went down slowly but last week came completely off of it and this has been a very STRANGE experience and very, very, disconcerting and uncomfortable. The depression hasn't been a problem at all except a few on the edge crying episodes which I believe were from the withdrawal. I am not taking the Wellbutrin, either, as I haven't heard anything about it as far as what it does to you. Do these experiences sound like anyone else's? Any experience with the Wellbutrin? How about Buspar or Zoloft as those are something my Dr. mentioned, too. Needless to say, I am VERY, VERY wary!!
Posted by Seraphim on May 6, 2001, at 10:14:13
In reply to Re: Wean slowly..very, very, slowly......., posted by hf on May 5, 2001, at 22:43:37
>
> Boy, I wish I'd NEVER been put on Effexor. I was on Prozac for 2 years and then put on Effexor XR 375 mg about 3 years. Now that I look back and compare to the side effects, I think that most of the problems where caused by the "cure". I had to back off of it when I got severe food poisoning and couldn't keep anything down. ANYthing in my stomach just wouldn't stay there. Well....that started the LONG trip of withdrawal. I mentioned to my Dr. that I had felt really terrible when I couldn't take my EXR due to the food poisoning adventure. I had come upon some of the horror stories of Effexor withdrawal on the internet and mentioned what I had read to him. That was the first time in 3 years that he EVER acknowledged the truth about the drug. That was the day that I made the conscious decision to get off of the stuff. He had me on Wellbutrin, too. I think that the side effects were what were being treated. Since I started coming off of this stuff I have had excruciating body/muscle pain; extremely exacerbated GERD; a very tuned out feeling in my head; visual disturbances; very low blood pressure; and who knows what else is connected to the withdrawal??!! I haven't done this fast. Went down slowly but last week came completely off of it and this has been a very STRANGE experience and very, very, disconcerting and uncomfortable. The depression hasn't been a problem at all except a few on the edge crying episodes which I believe were from the withdrawal. I am not taking the Wellbutrin, either, as I haven't heard anything about it as far as what it does to you. Do these experiences sound like anyone else's? Any experience with the Wellbutrin? How about Buspar or Zoloft as those are something my Dr. mentioned, too. Needless to say, I am VERY, VERY wary!!I have experienced all of the same. I am still sick and in pain. I'm stuck at 37.5mg after two months. Started at 300mg. How long did it take you? As far as the other drugs you mentioned, the only one I am familiar with is Buspar. A friend has taken it for a few years now and says it works great for her social anxiety. I would definitely research each drug and talk to others who have taken it before trying them. I know I will always do the same before even considering a medication, regardless of what it is for.
Seraphim
Posted by hf on May 6, 2001, at 11:29:26
In reply to Re: Wean slowly..very, very, slowly....... » hf, posted by Seraphim on May 6, 2001, at 10:14:13
- Boy, I wish I'd NEVER been put on Effexor...
- I have experienced all of the same. I am still sick and in pain. I'm stuck at 37.5mg after two months. Started at 300mg. How long did it take you? As far as the other drugs you mentioned, the only one I am familiar with is Buspar. A friend has taken it for a few years now and says it works great for her social anxiety. I would definitely research each drug and talk to others who have taken it before trying them. I know I will always do the same before even considering a medication, regardless of what it is for.
>
> SeraphimBelieve me, I am in NO rush to take another med.!! My Synthroid is the only one I feel comfortable with (for low thyroid). I've never felt any side effects other than feeling normal, again...at least along that line. :D
I got the food poisoning about two months ago which started the beginning of the end and then went off the EXR completely two weeks ago, a little over. From what I've read some are still having the withdrawal symptoms at 6 weeks. UGH!! I told my husband that I felt I was going through the joneses for something that I was duped on. That's supposed to be reserved for being not so bright and taking one of the street drugs when it is your choice. My psych was naive enough to give me his e-mail addy...I do believe I will use it as I have a few things to say about his negligence and/or ignorance in his use of these drugs on people who trust him. ;) I will do it "politely", of course.
I am SO GLAD that there is this type of reference and peer support concerning these drugs as I would have thought I was going more CRAZY!! I have enough med probs without added ones caused by my doctor! I just changed insurance companys (they cover meds!! with only a $7 copay!!) so I am going to drop the psych..
Did you read Cam's post about opening the XR caps and taking some of the little balls out so you can reduce the strength of the 37.5 mg caps even more? Sounds like a good idea. I should have done that - I have with XR allergy med so I wouldn't fall asleep working (which is dangerous since I train horses for a living :0 ) Also, according to the doctors' discussions under the tips section on the homepage, several seem to have found it helpful to give their patients a few doses of Prozac to help counter the joneses since it has a long half-life. It was interesting reading their take on this!
hf
Posted by kid47 on May 6, 2001, at 11:47:20
In reply to Re: Wean slowly..very, very, slowly......., posted by hf on May 6, 2001, at 11:29:26
I believe the 20mg/day of Prozac I began taking was the main reason I did not experience severe discontinuation fx after weaning down from 300mg FXR xr. Check with your doc about this.
> - Boy, I wish I'd NEVER been put on Effexor...
>
> - I have experienced all of the same. I am still sick and in pain. I'm stuck at 37.5mg after two months. Started at 300mg. How long did it take you? As far as the other drugs you mentioned, the only one I am familiar with is Buspar. A friend has taken it for a few years now and says it works great for her social anxiety. I would definitely research each drug and talk to others who have taken it before trying them. I know I will always do the same before even considering a medication, regardless of what it is for.
> >
> > Seraphim
>
> Believe me, I am in NO rush to take another med.!! My Synthroid is the only one I feel comfortable with (for low thyroid). I've never felt any side effects other than feeling normal, again...at least along that line. :D
>
> I got the food poisoning about two months ago which started the beginning of the end and then went off the EXR completely two weeks ago, a little over. From what I've read some are still having the withdrawal symptoms at 6 weeks. UGH!! I told my husband that I felt I was going through the joneses for something that I was duped on. That's supposed to be reserved for being not so bright and taking one of the street drugs when it is your choice. My psych was naive enough to give me his e-mail addy...I do believe I will use it as I have a few things to say about his negligence and/or ignorance in his use of these drugs on people who trust him. ;) I will do it "politely", of course.
>
> I am SO GLAD that there is this type of reference and peer support concerning these drugs as I would have thought I was going more CRAZY!! I have enough med probs without added ones caused by my doctor! I just changed insurance companys (they cover meds!! with only a $7 copay!!) so I am going to drop the psych..
>
> Did you read Cam's post about opening the XR caps and taking some of the little balls out so you can reduce the strength of the 37.5 mg caps even more? Sounds like a good idea. I should have done that - I have with XR allergy med so I wouldn't fall asleep working (which is dangerous since I train horses for a living :0 ) Also, according to the doctors' discussions under the tips section on the homepage, several seem to have found it helpful to give their patients a few doses of Prozac to help counter the joneses since it has a long half-life. It was interesting reading their take on this!
>
> hf
Posted by Michele on May 6, 2001, at 13:44:25
In reply to Re: Wean slowly..very, very, slowly......., posted by kid47 on May 6, 2001, at 11:47:20
>Prozac is definately a key here! I have seen soooooooo many people go through this, and just a couple days worth of prozac really makes a difference, at least to most!
I am still BEYOND baffled that people take this drug. That it's even prescribed still. I see it on here.... all the new people on here asking about it and want to take it... and other people actually recommending it! There are a few defenders on here that it's worked for.... but I don't think it's even worth the risk, when there are so many other options out there... I even read about these young kids on it. It's really scary to me.
I wrote this once in another post.... but my brother in law is a pharmasist... and he said he gets a pit in his stomache when he has to fill this prescription. He doesn't believe it's going to be around forever!
My pdoc won't even prescribe it anymore. He told me if someone asks.... he will refer them to another doctor. He doesn't believe in adding more pain to patients already intense pain. I'm so sorry for you going through all this!! My heart goes out to you......
Posted by mstar on May 6, 2001, at 14:48:44
In reply to Re: Wean slowly..very, very, slowly......., posted by hf on May 6, 2001, at 11:29:26
I just changed insurance companys (they cover meds!! with only a $7 copay!!)
>hf,
can I ask what insurance company? I am going to be changing jobs soon and will have to change from a 100% coverage of everything and 10$ co-pay for meds. Any help would be appreciated!
Ms
Posted by kid47 on May 6, 2001, at 20:07:19
In reply to Prozac may very well be the key, posted by Michele on May 6, 2001, at 13:44:25
Hello. I tried 7 different AD's & countless
"cocktails" but FXR xr was the only one that actually "cured" my depression. I think this is not a drug that should be given as a first line AD. I think a discontinuation strategy should be discussed before being rx'd fxr. I think there should be comprehensive studies on discontinuation
& a protocol established for it. But I do believe this drug is the closest thing to a miracle cure we have for very treatment resistant depression, especially with comorbid conditions. I know I will catch some shit for this statement. Just (as Dr Bob would say) Please be civil.12 days med free & loving it!!!
PS As always your mileage may vary.
> >Prozac is definately a key here! I have seen soooooooo many people go through this, and just a couple days worth of prozac really makes a difference, at least to most!
>
> I am still BEYOND baffled that people take this drug. That it's even prescribed still. I see it on here.... all the new people on here asking about it and want to take it... and other people actually recommending it! There are a few defenders on here that it's worked for.... but I don't think it's even worth the risk, when there are so many other options out there... I even read about these young kids on it. It's really scary to me.
>
> I wrote this once in another post.... but my brother in law is a pharmasist... and he said he gets a pit in his stomache when he has to fill this prescription. He doesn't believe it's going to be around forever!
>
> My pdoc won't even prescribe it anymore. He told me if someone asks.... he will refer them to another doctor. He doesn't believe in adding more pain to patients already intense pain. I'm so sorry for you going through all this!! My heart goes out to you......
Posted by Diane J. on May 6, 2001, at 22:01:10
In reply to Effexor. My conclusions, posted by kid47 on May 6, 2001, at 20:07:19
Hi, I'm glad Effexor XR helped you. I have taken it for about three years, but when I tried to stop taking it I failed miserably due to the very difficult withdrawal effects. I am down to 150mg from a peak of 300mg, and I am doing okay. I still would like to quit, but I don't want to feel that sick again. The reason I want to stop is because I don't think I need the medication anymore, not because I think it's a bad drug.
There is a site, http://www.priory.com/sideven.htm which discusses Effexor and withdrawal. Dr. Bob is on the advisory board for this site, Psychiatry Online. It is the opinion of this group that Effexor should be used as a second-line medication.
I saw my psychiatrist recently and I mentioned what I have read on this forum about using Prozac to help people withdraw from Effexor. He said he thought that was a good idea and he was going to use it!
People do take the medication because it is likely that they trust their doctors. Also, if someone is feeling bad and believes a medication will help, then of course a person will seek relief. During my tenure with Effexor I experienced a dry mouth, and that was it. I felt no other side effects. The only time I ran into trouble was when I tried to quit.
I don't think it is bad to take it. I do think a person should be given a great deal of support and information if the person would like to go off the drug. What was difficult for me was I got scared when I began to feel so ill, and my doctor couldn't give me an explanation. I found out everything from this forum, and I am grateful.
Sincerely,
Diane J.
> Hello. I tried 7 different AD's & countless
> "cocktails" but FXR xr was the only one that actually "cured" my depression. I think this is not a drug that should be given as a first line AD. I think a discontinuation strategy should be discussed before being rx'd fxr. I think there should be comprehensive studies on discontinuation
> & a protocol established for it. But I do believe this drug is the closest thing to a miracle cure we have for very treatment resistant depression, especially with comorbid conditions. I know I will catch some shit for this statement. Just (as Dr Bob would say) Please be civil.
>
> 12 days med free & loving it!!!
>
> PS As always your mileage may vary.
>
>
> > >Prozac is definately a key here! I have seen soooooooo many people go through this, and just a couple days worth of prozac really makes a difference, at least to most!
> >
> > I am still BEYOND baffled that people take this drug. That it's even prescribed still. I see it on here.... all the new people on here asking about it and want to take it... and other people actually recommending it! There are a few defenders on here that it's worked for.... but I don't think it's even worth the risk, when there are so many other options out there... I even read about these young kids on it. It's really scary to me.
> >
> > I wrote this once in another post.... but my brother in law is a pharmasist... and he said he gets a pit in his stomache when he has to fill this prescription. He doesn't believe it's going to be around forever!
> >
> > My pdoc won't even prescribe it anymore. He told me if someone asks.... he will refer them to another doctor. He doesn't believe in adding more pain to patients already intense pain. I'm so sorry for you going through all this!! My heart goes out to you......
Posted by hf on May 7, 2001, at 0:23:05
In reply to Re: Wean slowly..very, very, slowly......., posted by mstar on May 6, 2001, at 14:48:44
> I just changed insurance companys (they cover meds!! with only a $7 copay!!)
> >
>
> hf,
>
> can I ask what insurance company? I am going to be changing jobs soon and will have to change from a 100% coverage of everything and 10$ co-pay for meds. Any help would be appreciated!
> MsMy husband started working for Intel and they have their insurance with Cigna. :)
Posted by Iris on May 7, 2001, at 10:33:44
In reply to Re: effexor xr and side effects - Ann and Judy, posted by Cam W. on April 23, 2000, at 23:08:36
Hi,I am new to this and I was wondering if anyone could tell me how long it takes for the side effects to go away - will they at all? I started taking Effexor a week ago and I am taking 75mg a day. So far I'm having the following side effects:Trouble sleeping (I sleep for about three to four hours wake up and I'm wide awake,can't go back to sleep) plus I can't remember my dreams anymore.My jaw feels very tight with pain going into my ears.I am very! constipated :-( My arms and legs are falling asleep and I get this tingly feeling in my whole body.I constantly have sweaty palms. I did fell a little nausea for the first couple of days but that went away. I don't have much appetite. If there is someone out there who knows how long it takes for it to go away, please let me know.I am very scared taking this drug, like I said I am new to this. Thank's a lot to anyone who will answer me
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