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Posted by CarolAnn on May 22, 2000, at 9:22:49
Here's a frivolous question. Are any of you psycho-babblers someone famous? I know, it's stupid, but I was just thinking about how celebrities aways say that they have favorite internet sites that they visit incognito, and I had the thought that there must be some famous people who have our type of problems, so maybe they're here and we just don't know who they are.
How 'bout it? You don't have to say who you are, just tell us(in general) what you are famous for. Or don't, you could just tell me to shut up and stop wasteing space on dumb stuff like this! CarolAnn
Posted by Noa on May 22, 2000, at 9:53:21
In reply to secret identities, posted by CarolAnn on May 22, 2000, at 9:22:49
Well, you asked for it. =0)
I won't say who I am, but might I suggest that when I am not babbling, I am busy playing with my buddies here on the farm and refamiliarizing myself with my nationalistic values as well as with my father, step mother, and half-brother, while awaiting a very important legal decision that could determine how and where the rest of my life is lived?
Posted by Cam W. on May 22, 2000, at 11:38:47
In reply to Re: secret identities, posted by Noa on May 22, 2000, at 9:53:21
> Well, you asked for it. =0)
>
> I won't say who I am, but might I suggest that when I am not babbling, I am busy playing with my buddies here on the farm and refamiliarizing myself with my nationalistic values as well as with my father, step mother, and half-brother, while awaiting a very important legal decision that could determine how and where the rest of my life is lived?I'm her half-brother.
Posted by Greg on May 22, 2000, at 11:43:27
In reply to Re: secret identities, posted by Cam W. on May 22, 2000, at 11:38:47
CarolAnn,
While I have been known to think of myself as a legend in my own mind (where else would it be?), there's nothing special about me.You do know that your chances of getting a straight answer here are somewhat....limited?
Hugs,
Greg
Posted by Rebecca on May 22, 2000, at 12:17:50
In reply to Re: secret identities, posted by Cam W. on May 22, 2000, at 11:38:47
> > Well, you asked for it. =0)
> >
> > I won't say who I am, but might I suggest that when I am not babbling, I am busy playing with my buddies here on the farm and refamiliarizing myself with my nationalistic values as well as with my father, step mother, and half-brother, while awaiting a very important legal decision that could determine how and where the rest of my life is lived?
>
> I'm her half-brother.and while you're out on the farm, just remember: 4 legs good, 2 legs better.
Posted by dove on May 22, 2000, at 15:05:33
In reply to Re: secret identities, posted by Rebecca on May 22, 2000, at 12:17:50
Alrighty, CarolAnn scores big-time on the "thoughtful, yet hilarious humor" gauge. Yeah for CarolAnn!!!
I'll say that I was semifamous at one time, when my name, birthdate, and parentage were published in the local town newspaper. In addition to my temporary flutter under the hot vapor lights when I went nuts in high school painting myself in red acrylic paints and shaving my head, which was also published (without my identifying info of course) in the local newspaper.
If I think of any more I'll update everyone of course :-)
Pass around the sunshine for a change. Why yes I will, thank you.
dove
Posted by bob on May 22, 2000, at 15:51:57
In reply to Re: secret identities, posted by dove on May 22, 2000, at 15:05:33
Secret Identity? You mean, like, other than the one I have the costume with the mask and cape that I use when fighting crimes here in Gotham, right?
Well, my last name is Boyle. If you paid attention in your chemistry classes, you'd remember my gas law.
I actually have several publications, and one was quite well known within my field, but I doubt any of you out there just happen to have the Summer 1993 RER out there to read it. It was big enough so that when I went to conferences and introduced myself, people would say, "Oh, so you're THAT Robert Boyle?". That always gave me a chuckle.
Oh, and I was in a car commercial once.
cheers,
bob
Posted by Todd on May 22, 2000, at 18:05:54
In reply to Re: secret identities, posted by bob on May 22, 2000, at 15:51:57
OK, CarolAnn, I guess it's time to fess up. I use the name Todd, but I am actually the spirit of Elvis channeling through Todd's body. Little did you know, writing Todd a few weeks ago about that dream you had, that you were actually writing to me. Yep, me. The subject of yer hot 'n heavy dream. Oh, goodness gracious. That wasn't no dream, honey. We were together, you and me, on a different plane of consciousness. I can't believe you couldn't remember how sweet it was. You were just about the sweetest I've ever had, my hunka hunka burnin' love. Don't you ever change. And if we meet again, precious, make sure you're there with a big ol' plata mashed potatas with lots of gravy for your beloved King.
Hugs and kisses, honey. Gotta go... ;^)
Posted by Greg on May 22, 2000, at 18:38:02
In reply to Re: secret identities, posted by Todd on May 22, 2000, at 18:05:54
I told you you wouldn't get a straight answer....
> OK, CarolAnn, I guess it's time to fess up. I use the name Todd, but I am actually the spirit of Elvis channeling through Todd's body. Little did you know, writing Todd a few weeks ago about that dream you had, that you were actually writing to me. Yep, me. The subject of yer hot 'n heavy dream. Oh, goodness gracious. That wasn't no dream, honey. We were together, you and me, on a different plane of consciousness. I can't believe you couldn't remember how sweet it was. You were just about the sweetest I've ever had, my hunka hunka burnin' love. Don't you ever change. And if we meet again, precious, make sure you're there with a big ol' plata mashed potatas with lots of gravy for your beloved King.
> Hugs and kisses, honey. Gotta go... ;^)
Posted by Racer on May 22, 2000, at 19:13:40
In reply to Re: secret identities, posted by Greg on May 22, 2000, at 18:38:02
my mother is famous...
Of course, she's also a squirrel who lives on another planet, but I swear she's not Shirley MacLean!
Seriously, this is an interesting question, and it would be interesting to find out if anyone here really was well known.
I used to be known locally, and I have written some well-received pieces, but the name isn't one that most of you would know.
When I do get ot be famous, I'll let y'all know! Promise!
Posted by boBB on May 22, 2000, at 21:07:54
In reply to I'm not, but..., posted by Racer on May 22, 2000, at 19:13:40
Noa, you are obviously too well educated to be Elian. If he had your smarts, he would not have let his mother take him to sea on such an unseaworthy vessel.
Actually I am two famous people. Since Che was murdered so long ago, I grew this beard, mostly to hide the persistant dour look on my face. That is why I frequent this site - to get some insight into my long-term depression. Trust me; it is situational! But myself and your president play this little game, where he comes to my country and I go to yours, made up to look like each other. It was actually myself who lied to the Senate subcommittee, and agents of your government know that there are actually TWO sources of DNA on the blue dress. Fortunately, we have them all controled by the secret videotapes we made of their own philandering. That antic was my litte way of getting revenge for the itching dust on my toilet seat and the exploding cigars.
But please don't confuse our humble socialist model with nationalism. I know your government likes to criticize our human rights record, but your government actually has a greater percentage of its population in prison than does ours. Maybe spend a week in one of your prisons, then come talk to me about human rights.
We have never attempted to invade your country as you did ours, and many of us here in power are genuinely concerned about your organized criminal organizations regaining control of our hotels and tourist industry as they did before our little revolution. Your criminal organizations already dally in your legal pharmaceutical market and fund their operations against my allies by distributing similar substances illegally in your cities and small towns.
Maybe your should come visit us sometime, via Mexico City, and witness one of our open elections for municipal government positions. Our people are really rather contented, until they get a phone call from a Miami relative teling them freedom is a trip to Walt Disney World.
But no, I am hardly famous. Brad Pitts - now he is famous. Mostly I am just a forgotten anachornism left over from a century when the shed blood of countless millions had watered the hope of justice and equality.
Posted by kellyR. on May 22, 2000, at 21:09:19
In reply to secret identities, posted by CarolAnn on May 22, 2000, at 9:22:49
> Here's a frivolous question. Are any of you psycho-babblers someone famous? I know, it's stupid, but I was just thinking about how celebrities aways say that they have favorite internet sites that they visit incognito, and I had the thought that there must be some famous people who have our type of problems, so maybe they're here and we just don't know who they are.
> How 'bout it? You don't have to say who you are, just tell us(in general) what you are famous for. Or don't, you could just tell me to shut up and stop wasteing space on dumb stuff like this! CarolAnnAlote of people like my paintings,I paint anything to do w/ the new jersey shore,hope to be famous for that.
Posted by Renee N on May 22, 2000, at 21:11:21
In reply to secret identities, posted by CarolAnn on May 22, 2000, at 9:22:49
Well...when I was a freshman in college my friends somehow talked me into mooning with four other girls from a fifth floor dorm room. I was the short butt...(I thought no one would know who we were, but my boyfriend at the time was not amused by the showing my a-- for all the campus to see!) We also got "written up", but the head RA couldn't stop laughing when she was supposed to be reprimanding us.
Posted by Sara T on May 22, 2000, at 22:49:28
In reply to secret identities, posted by CarolAnn on May 22, 2000, at 9:22:49
>
Carol Ann has raised an interesting point. You never know who you're talking to in cyberspace, do you? And, you never know if who you're talking to might be someone you've met before, in some distant past.So, how about past lives? Does anyone have any good tales to tell of their past lives? Anyone ever tried Regression Therapy?
Sara T.
Posted by Cindy W on May 23, 2000, at 0:07:44
In reply to secret identities, posted by CarolAnn on May 22, 2000, at 9:22:49
> Here's a frivolous question. Are any of you psycho-babblers someone famous? I know, it's stupid, but I was just thinking about how celebrities aways say that they have favorite internet sites that they visit incognito, and I had the thought that there must be some famous people who have our type of problems, so maybe they're here and we just don't know who they are.
> How 'bout it? You don't have to say who you are, just tell us(in general) what you are famous for. Or don't, you could just tell me to shut up and stop wasteing space on dumb stuff like this! CarolAnnCarolAnn, sorry but I'm just a nobody and not famous!--Cindy W
Posted by Cindy W on May 23, 2000, at 0:12:15
In reply to Past lives, anyone?, posted by Sara T on May 22, 2000, at 22:49:28
> >
> Carol Ann has raised an interesting point. You never know who you're talking to in cyberspace, do you? And, you never know if who you're talking to might be someone you've met before, in some distant past.
>
> So, how about past lives? Does anyone have any good tales to tell of their past lives? Anyone ever tried Regression Therapy?
>
> Sara T.OK, Sara T., if you must know, I'll admit it! I was St. Joan of Arc in my past life, as well as Sir Francis Drake, and in my next life, I'm coming back as a Frog (maybe Kermit).--Cindy W
Posted by boBB on May 23, 2000, at 0:49:01
In reply to Past lives, anyone?, posted by Sara T on May 22, 2000, at 22:49:28
What's wrong with this life?
I have long been a sceptic of past life regression, though for many years I could never put my finger on why. I try to be rigorously open minded about things, and practice some kinds of shamanistic behavior myself.
I might overgeneralize, and leave out some vital points here in describing mysticism, but one kind deals with the world we are part of, and how our mind perceives it, whereas another, probably far more popular kind of mysticism (in America) focuses more on our perceptions as the fabric of the world. Past life regression falls in the later group.
Some practitioners claim that channeled "entities" are real, but many, when confronted, toy with a definition of reality that makes it out to be "whatever we want it to be." Past life "channelers" have told me it does not matter whether the experience is real or not, because it seems to help people. That is a very humanistic view, but I tend to see humans as only a small part of reality, and believe my perception is only a minute fraction of the cummulative pool of willpower that creates the universe.
Ultimately, I find "reality based" magic to be more powerful. It integrates desires and needs into the stage we can all share, rather than sending our minds off into other times and other realms and claiming personal responsibility for every actor, prop and theme on the stage of our lives.
I question the ego needs of past life therapists. Not that they are much different from the wigged-out doctors mentioned in nearby threads, but some critics say channeling serves not only the need of the suplicant to enter into a inferior relationship with a spiritual authority, but that it also allows the practitioner to percieve themselves as an all-powerful and benevolent person. A transactional analysis would reveal a parent/child relationship between the channeler and the supplicant.
Ultimately, the goal of pmedicine is to integrate diverse parts of a personality into a whole person and to integrate a whole person into a concesus reality. While channeling sometimes seems to help people, I think it fragments the person and leaves them grasping for solid ground. Some, it seems, are unable to reach beyond their spirtual practice to afford practical participation in the day to day needs of the "real" world - the one where people get hungry and cold and tired and sick.
While I indulge in a bizarre range of emotional behaviors, and personally practice magical thinking with regard to things I could not have rationally effected (the weather, world events, etc.), channelling is on my list of suspicious practices. I will tell you I have experiences with things beyond my effective realm, but I will seldom ask you to beleive with me in the way I see these magical relationhsips. I might urge you to join me in a political or social agenda, and I might confide my bizare spritual practices, but I won't ask you to agree with me they are real. And I will never accept money for my magical representations. My interpersonal relationships are going to deal with Earth, and with humans made from dirt, sunlight and DNA.
For a well-considered analysis of channeling and other modern new-age spiritual practices, check out The Guru Papers: Masks of Authoritarian Power, by Joel Kramer, Diana Alstad, 1993.
You might also check out TriCycle magazine, the popular Bhuddist journal. Sometime in 1998 there was an article in there that identified past-life channeling as a distinctly American phenomenon, unique from eastern Bhuddism. I would not do justice to attempt to recall the differences detailed there - my recollection is that the past life belief was something Bhuddism incorporated from earlier traditions as it spread across Asia, but a belief in the ability to channel specific personas from previous lives is not found in eastern practices.
Posted by kazoo on May 23, 2000, at 1:49:51
In reply to secret identities, posted by CarolAnn on May 22, 2000, at 9:22:49
> Here's a frivolous question. Are any of you psycho-babblers someone famous?
^^^^^^^^^
Greetings to CarolAnn.
I confess: I'm not myself, woe is I!
kazoo
Posted by JudithC on May 23, 2000, at 5:22:29
In reply to secret identities, posted by CarolAnn on May 22, 2000, at 9:22:49
Oh,my,CarolAnn,how your cyber ink does sting. You want to know if any of us are famous and incognito. As a matter of fact,I am quite famous and by coming to the BabbleBoard I felt that I could maintain my dignity yet be able to connect with like people;because Uncle Walt told me years and years ago to "keep my big ears clean and private". Trying to please everyone for years and years has taken a toll upon my cheerful self so please keep this to yourself for I am m * i * c * k * e *
Posted by CarolAnn on May 23, 2000, at 8:31:29
In reply to Re: secret identities, posted by Todd on May 22, 2000, at 18:05:54
Very funny, everyone! Dove, I'm sure you will find it even more hilarious to know that I wasn't trying to be funny!!! Though, I do see the humour in it now that you pointed it out. Story of my life: Either no one "gets it" when I'm trying to be funny, or everyone thinks it's a joke when some unintentionally puerile thing escapes from my brain.
TODD!?! I had no idea!! How flattering that "The King" would take the time to insinuate himself into my lit'l ole dreams(picture my eyes peering over a fluttering fan)!
You are too cute! What a funny post! Any chance it's also you masquerading as Bono from U2? ;^)
CarolAnn
Posted by Sara T on May 23, 2000, at 9:07:30
In reply to Re: Past lives, anyone?, posted by boBB on May 23, 2000, at 0:49:01
> What's wrong with this life?
>
> I have long been a sceptic of past life regression, though for many years I could never put my finger on why. I try to be rigorously open minded about things, and practice some kinds of shamanistic behavior myself.
>
> I might overgeneralize, and leave out some vital points here in describing mysticism, but one kind deals with the world we are part of, and how our mind perceives it, whereas another, probably far more popular kind of mysticism (in America) focuses more on our perceptions as the fabric of the world. Past life regression falls in the later group.
>
> Some practitioners claim that channeled "entities" are real, but many, when confronted, toy with a definition of reality that makes it out to be "whatever we want it to be." Past life "channelers" have told me it does not matter whether the experience is real or not, because it seems to help people. That is a very humanistic view, but I tend to see humans as only a small part of reality, and believe my perception is only a minute fraction of the cummulative pool of willpower that creates the universe.
>
> Ultimately, I find "reality based" magic to be more powerful. It integrates desires and needs into the stage we can all share, rather than sending our minds off into other times and other realms and claiming personal responsibility for every actor, prop and theme on the stage of our lives.
>
> I question the ego needs of past life therapists. Not that they are much different from the wigged-out doctors mentioned in nearby threads, but some critics say channeling serves not only the need of the suplicant to enter into a inferior relationship with a spiritual authority, but that it also allows the practitioner to percieve themselves as an all-powerful and benevolent person. A transactional analysis would reveal a parent/child relationship between the channeler and the supplicant.
>
> Ultimately, the goal of pmedicine is to integrate diverse parts of a personality into a whole person and to integrate a whole person into a concesus reality. While channeling sometimes seems to help people, I think it fragments the person and leaves them grasping for solid ground. Some, it seems, are unable to reach beyond their spirtual practice to afford practical participation in the day to day needs of the "real" world - the one where people get hungry and cold and tired and sick.
>
> While I indulge in a bizarre range of emotional behaviors, and personally practice magical thinking with regard to things I could not have rationally effected (the weather, world events, etc.), channelling is on my list of suspicious practices. I will tell you I have experiences with things beyond my effective realm, but I will seldom ask you to beleive with me in the way I see these magical relationhsips. I might urge you to join me in a political or social agenda, and I might confide my bizare spritual practices, but I won't ask you to agree with me they are real. And I will never accept money for my magical representations. My interpersonal relationships are going to deal with Earth, and with humans made from dirt, sunlight and DNA.
>
> For a well-considered analysis of channeling and other modern new-age spiritual practices, check out The Guru Papers: Masks of Authoritarian Power, by Joel Kramer, Diana Alstad, 1993.
>
> You might also check out TriCycle magazine, the popular Bhuddist journal. Sometime in 1998 there was an article in there that identified past-life channeling as a distinctly American phenomenon, unique from eastern Bhuddism. I would not do justice to attempt to recall the differences detailed there - my recollection is that the past life belief was something Bhuddism incorporated from earlier traditions as it spread across Asia, but a belief in the ability to channel specific personas from previous lives is not found in eastern practices.boBB
Wow, your analysis of Regression therapy and how reincarnation beliefs in the East are quite different is very good, although on a more serious note than my post was intended. I myself do not remember any past lives nor do I dabble in mysticism. (I did have a Ouija board as a teenager).I actually agree with what you said. I tend to be and want to be in the here and now. I have alot of trouble with the idea of a diety (God)as being an all seeing, all powerful BEING. I do believe that the Universe is alot bigger than we are and that we are all connected to it because we are all made up of the energy and physical matter the stars and planets are made of. So I guess in that since we are also connected to the past, present and future.
I have lived in Latin America and during the Contra War in Central America I went to a refugee camp and I have worked in squatter settlements there too. I have seen what poverty does to people. One thing is striking. That is the inroads that many of the more Fundamentalist Protestant churches are making on what used to be totally Roman Catholic populations. Why? Because the Catholic church used religion and mysticism to pasify the people and the newer churches are actually going out and providing people with the help they need to build shelters, medical care, dental care, food, clothing, etc. I
I have a problem with it being a religious organization that's providing those things instead of the gov'ts of those countries, but if I were as destitute as they are, I would be thanking God in their church too.
Back to Regression therapy. I don't see it as Shamanism, which has a long history. I see it more like a recycled version of the same Mysticism that was popular around the turn of the century. Houdini exposed many of the mediums for the frauds they were. I imagine many channelers are making a living off some very vulnerable people. But it could be fun to imagine what one might have been.
Sara T.
Posted by Noa on May 23, 2000, at 9:15:41
In reply to Re: I'm not, but..., posted by boBB on May 22, 2000, at 21:07:54
> Noa, you are obviously too well educated to be Elian. If he had your smarts, he would not have let his mother take him to sea on such an unseaworthy vessel.
no, but you gotta admit, I need this place for my ptsd.
Posted by dove on May 23, 2000, at 10:39:48
In reply to Re: tsk...you guyyys! especially Dove and Todd, posted by CarolAnn on May 23, 2000, at 8:31:29
To the sweet CarolAnn,
I'm sorry if I took your post for jocularity when it was intended for seriousness, it just seemed to much to ask for some of us silly babblers :-) Thanks for not being perturbed or offended, I really enjoy the many original subjects you cook up. So go forward, ignoring the nuts sitting in the peanut gallery if you can :-) Hugs for you!!!
dove
Posted by CarolAnn on May 23, 2000, at 13:06:46
In reply to Re: tsk...you guyyys! especially Dove and Todd, posted by dove on May 23, 2000, at 10:39:48
Dove, of course I wasn't perturbed or offended. It really wasn't intended as a serious post, I did mean it to lighten things up a little. However, I really was curious and seriously expected at least one true admittance of fame or notoriety. I always realize(after someone points it out), that I've unintentionally made a joke. Unfortunealy, this inspires me to periodically attempt real(on purpose) jokes, which either fall flat or have to be explained, due to my offbeat sense of humour. I think I am humour impaired. I AM very glad anytime I can make anyone at psycho-babble laugh, although, I know I've fallen flat a few times here too. I'll probably keep trying though, so you'll all have to wade thru the bad stuff to get to the very infrequent funny stuff! Smiles to Dove and all the rest of you too! CarolAnn
Posted by Adam on May 23, 2000, at 18:12:09
In reply to secret identities, posted by CarolAnn on May 22, 2000, at 9:22:49
"Fame, fame, fatal Fame
It can play hideous tricks on the brain
But still I'd rather be Famous
Than righteous or holy, any day..."
> Here's a frivolous question. Are any of you psycho-babblers someone famous? I know, it's stupid, but I was just thinking about how celebrities aways say that they have favorite internet sites that they visit incognito, and I had the thought that there must be some famous people who have our type of problems, so maybe they're here and we just don't know who they are.
> How 'bout it? You don't have to say who you are, just tell us(in general) what you are famous for. Or don't, you could just tell me to shut up and stop wasteing space on dumb stuff like this! CarolAnn
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