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Posted by Rick on March 28, 2000, at 15:39:47
In reply to Celexa Side Effects, posted by Marie on March 19, 2000, at 18:18:55
> I've been taking Celexa now for 12 days and find when I wake in the morning I am very anxious. I take the celexa and it does go away after a few hours. I also experience lack of motivation, and sleepiness. I was on Serzone prior to this and found it worked great up to 2 months ago when I had an excess amount of stress and I guess it just stopped working. I probably should have asked my doctor about increasing the dosage of Serzone instead of him changing me to Celexa. Also, is sexual disfunction a common side effect with Celexa. I've read info that it is with men; how about women? Would love to hear your comments. Thanks.
I've been taking Celexa for 60 days now and I must say it did have an immediate effect on my sexual function, but it only lasted about 4 weeks. During this time I no need or want to do anything. After I had even more stress come into my life the doctor doubled my dose to 40mg/day. I now have an increased desire for sex and my wife and I are getting along just fine. I still have problems with decision making as I tend to say exactly whats on my mind instead of thinking of how it's going to affect everyone before I say it.
Posted by A. on March 28, 2000, at 21:23:57
In reply to Re: Celexa Side Effects , posted by Robyn on March 20, 2000, at 10:53:05
> I have also noticed that I'm clenching my teeth more and for the last week I've been waking up every day with a slight headache.
Wow, I just wanted to comment that I have felt the clenched teeth thing as well. I have associated it with the nausea I feel as well, and the teeth clenching as a way of dealing with it. I don't know, but I catch myself unconciousless clenching my jaw. I wish I could comment on the headache part, but I have woken up with headaches for as long as I can remember, although caffeine and excedrin have been all I've needed for them (perhaps I am dependent on caffeine, as I drink coca cola every day).
I have not noticed any apathy, however. I have actually noticed an interest in talking to others (strange, isn't it, as I am usually quite antisocial). I am also taking Celexa to treat panic disorder. I generally don't see myself as depressed, but I do have panic/anxiety attacks randomly and enough to disrupt my life. I did, however, at one time have clinical depression, so I can relate to how awful depression is, and what a hole it is to be in. At the time, I was prescribed prozac, 20mg per day. I had no side effects with prozac at all, except initially it took longer to be satisfied sexually (although libido was not hurt at all!) I stayed with prozac for about 2 years. I stopped taking it when I felt I didn't need it to maintain mental health. I have rarely fallen into the same kind of depression I felt daily before prozac. I wonder why the doctor prescribes Celexa and not prozac? What are their differences? Anyone?
Posted by A. on March 28, 2000, at 21:30:42
In reply to NO MORE DRUGS, posted by Joy on March 23, 2000, at 21:16:08
> Thanks Cam.
> I am thinking about therapy (doc. wants me to go).
> But the drugs are o-u-t.
>
> In fact tomorrow I'll make an appt.
> This is just too scary..side effects,withdrawl,...
> I feel like a guinie pig.
> I feel like my life isn't my own.
> That the drug is in control..not me.Joy - I just wanted to say if you are going to be off AD completely and try out therapy, and are worried about negative effects of not being on medication, that you might want to try 5-HTP. 5-HTP is the precursor to serotonin (5-HT) and can be bought in a health food place like GNC. It is a nice natural alternative to modern medicine. You might just want to take a small 5-HTP suppliment when beginning therapy to help ease the transition period b/w drug dependency for mood elevation and therapy. Taking 5-HTP while on any SSRI is generally a bad idea, however, as it can create high levels of serotonin in the brain (and serotonin syndrome), so it would be best to take 5-HTP when not taking anything else, generally 100mg 5-HTP per day is enough to really boost your mood. And also take vitamin B-6, as B-6 is a catalyst for the conversion b/w 5-HTP and serotonin.
I hope this helps, as I used to be on prozac for depression and had always worried about having to have drugs for the rest of my life. This turned out not to be true, as I stopped the prozac and was able to maintain a healthy mood in general ever since. Good luck.
Posted by Laura on March 28, 2000, at 23:57:25
In reply to Re: more Celexa sharing ( a thought...), posted by CarolAnn on February 9, 2000, at 9:36:45
I really wish I could figure out what is really going on with me. I was recently diagnosed with Depression (something which I've never had before). I am not going through any serious issues... In fact, my life hasnt been this wonderful in quite a long time. I do not wake up each morning sad/or lack of desire to do things. HOWEVER.. I am experiencing terrible blurry vision, terrible brain fog (I'm having difficulty processing information), and virtually no short term memory/recall. I am also irritible and pissed off most of the time...over silly stuff mostly...something which I've never done in my whole life...
I tried Wellbutrin 300mg daily but it didnt even put a dent in it... As of today, I am trying Celexa but am a bit scared ...most of the bulletins indicated that the people who took Celexa functioned but in some sense,they were a bit numb and out of touch.
I just want to be the way I was just a few months ago... happy go lucky and feeling good. It scares me to think that I'm going to be on drugs..maybe for life.... Does anyone have any positive stories about Celexa? Were you able to get off it after a while?
Posted by Jen Hill on March 29, 2000, at 6:23:35
In reply to Re: Celexa Side Effects , posted by A. on March 28, 2000, at 21:23:57
I've been taking the Celexa about 2 weeks now. The first week I had the really bad teeth clenching and my throat hurt when I woke up in the morning and such. I'm not really noticing any side-effects now except it takes me longer to orgasm. Thankfully, I haven't noticed a lack of interest though. Very much unlike the Zoloft I was on which very much lowered my interest in sex, caused diarrhea and other stomach problems, and wasn't working for my depression.
As for the Celexa helping with depression, it's only been 2 weeks and I notice a significant difference from the Zoloft (I'm also on wellbutrin). People at work, friends, and especially my boyfriend have noticed a big difference. My boyfriend has put up with the brunt of my depression and such for months now and he just keeps telling me "I really like the Celexa!!" Poor thing has had to put up with my hysterics and irrationality and crying at the drop of a pin.
Posted by Cam W. on March 29, 2000, at 7:33:42
In reply to Re: NO MORE DRUGS, posted by A. on March 28, 2000, at 21:30:42
> Joy - I just wanted to say if you are going to be off AD completely and try out therapy, and are worried about negative effects of not being on medication, that you might want to try 5-HTP. 5-HTP is the precursor to serotonin (5-HT) and can be bought in a health food place like GNC. It is a nice natural alternative to modern medicine.A. - Anything you put into your body to alleviate a disease or disorder can be considered a drug (even water). Just because something is natural does not mean that it is safe (eg arsenic). Why would Joy want to use a scientifically unproven therapy when she does not want to use a product that has been shown to alleviate the symptoms of depression in controlled clinical trials? If Joy's depression is not debilitating and she is able to understand the psychotherapy, then a trial of this treatment without medication may be warranted. Antidepressants do no cure depression, they just alleviate the symptoms so that one is able to work through their problems (formally in psychotherapy or informally through types of self talk).
Good luck Joy, and let us know how things are going. - Cam W.
Posted by A. on March 29, 2000, at 17:47:50
In reply to Re: NO MORE DRUGS, posted by Cam W. on March 29, 2000, at 7:33:42
Well 5-HTP is different, being that it naturally is in your body to begin with. This is what your body uses to make serotonin. Suppliments are generally used to boost the amount of serotonin your body normally makes. In small doses it has no side effects, and can make transition b/w prescription drugs and therapy less traumatic. This was only a suggestion, as it has worked for a lot of people. Of course, this is Joy's choice of how she wants to handle it. She just seems apprehensive about going cold turkey. If safety about taking 5-HTP is a concern, there are a lot of websites dedicated to giving detailed information on it.
Posted by Rebecca on March 29, 2000, at 17:56:02
In reply to IM SOOOOO CONFUSED! HELP! , posted by Laura on March 28, 2000, at 23:57:25
Laura--I'll put in a big positive vote for celexa. for me, it's worked wonders. I've been taking it since December, and am still tweaking things, but it's great to be at a state of tweaking rather than wallowing.
I had nausea and insomnia and constipation at first, and they all went away. Then, when the dose was increased to 60 mg at the end of February, the insomnia returned and I lost my appetite and interest in food. (I also stopped taking risperdal at the same time, so I think the risperdal had been counteracting the celexa side effects). I just started seroquel, and am sleeping more and have my appetite back.
Finding the right medication combination is really an individual thing. A. asked why people don't use prozac instead of celexa--I tried prozac, but it gave me horrible anxiety and insomnia (and I'd never had anxiety problems before). For me, it took a lot of frustration and months of side effects coming and going before I found something that works well with bearable side effects. I ran out of patience several times and thought I'd rather be predicably depressed than wonder what medications would make my body and mind do next.
I'm not sure when/if I'll go off the celexa (I've had depression since adolescence)--for now I'm concentrating on getting to a good and stable state and figuring out what I want to do with my life.
Posted by Cam W. on March 29, 2000, at 18:58:07
In reply to Re: Re: NO MORE DRUGS, posted by A. on March 29, 2000, at 17:47:50
A. - Sorry for the knee-jerk reaction, but I deal with natural = safe everyday. I have patients relapse quite often because the 'natural products' "cure", while conventional therapies only alleviate symptoms. That is why I am sensitive when I see natural.Does 5-HTP absorb as a whole molecule or is it broken into component parts and reformed in the bloodstream and is it active or passive transport across the intestinal membrane? Also, it must readily cross the blood brain barrier to elicit an effect or does it act peripherally? I agree that a low dose of a naturally occuring biochemical can help if indeed serotonin is lacking and if you can get it into the brain.
Again, sorry for the lashing out. - Cam W.
Posted by Laura on March 30, 2000, at 0:06:59
In reply to Re: IM SOOOOO CONFUSED! HELP! , posted by Rebecca on March 29, 2000, at 17:56:02
Rebecca:
Thanks for your imput! I really appreciate it! I wish you well and hope you find your place in the world!
;)
Laura
Posted by Glenda on March 30, 2000, at 21:09:58
In reply to Re: Celexa Side Effects, posted by Linda on March 22, 2000, at 21:41:19
I was on CELEXA for 6months....got really sleepy...lost energy....was far less hyper than I had felt and slept like a rock....had trouble getting up in the morning, I was sleeping so soundly....Got tired of being tired so I decided to go with out....and slowly withdrew...so far so good....I wake up refreshed....go to bed with a usual tiredness not a drugged effect and I am starting to go back to my original weight.Its been about a week off of it...now will see what the depression , pms and anxiety do....Have planned to keep active AND pray a lot. Will keep you all posted.
Posted by Dawn on March 31, 2000, at 8:23:25
In reply to Re: celexa makes me gag, posted by Amy on February 11, 2000, at 15:48:51
I think this is to Amy:
I have hypothyroidism and have always been
slightly under weight----about 105-117---I'm 5'7. So you can have hypothyroidism and not be over weight.
Posted by D on March 31, 2000, at 8:32:50
In reply to Re: celexa, posted by Lisa on March 17, 2000, at 19:34:49
For anyone who is not happy with Celexa, I've had wonderful results with Zoloft. I was on 50mg.
Posted by Valley Girl on March 31, 2000, at 13:11:00
In reply to Re: celexa, posted by D on March 31, 2000, at 8:32:50
>Has anyone else had shooting pains in the side of their head while taking Celexa? This is my 5th week on 20 mgs and the other day I had such a pain in my head I thought I was having a stroke! I am also now experiencing short term memory loss. Like I actually had to look up how to spell memory. I am an exellent speller. Being an executive secretary, I really need to be able to focus, it's not happening. I thought I could deal with side-affects, now it is affecting my job. I am really not feeling any different with the depression. It is still black. I was forced into taking meds anyway. I do not think my depression is organic. But,I figured I would make my therapist and doctors happy. Now what?
For anyone who is not happy with Celexa, I've had wonderful results with Zoloft. I was on 50mg.
Posted by Joy on March 31, 2000, at 20:52:18
In reply to Re: Unsubscribe, posted by Dr. Bob on March 25, 2000, at 14:48:04
Thanks A. and Cam W.
I am now reading a book by Michael Murray,N.D.,
5-HTP The Natural Way to Overcome Depression,Obesity
and Insomnia.
So far it makes sense to me-tho I am not a Dr.
Alot of the info. strikes home.Also,no matter what "ailment" a person has....the
chances are greater of recovery..if that person "believes"
in the choice of treatment.And there are times when a person is not so much
"depressed" as they are "confused" about their life.
Knowing yourself..with growing up..seeking answers
within (rather than following others or always seeking
approval or making others decisions...yours) is
key to being happy and well adjusted.Joy
Posted by Sandra on April 4, 2000, at 10:11:57
In reply to IM SOOOOO CONFUSED! HELP! , posted by Laura on March 28, 2000, at 23:57:25
Not to be cynical (since I've been handling a "bout of depression" myself) but are you sure there is not some physical issue here? Such as vitamin deficiency, hormone changes, lack of exercise, change in diet or thyroid or blood sugar change vice just depression? I'm not trying to say depression isn't real by any means but there is SO much we can do for ourselves other than resorting to a pill for a quick fix. Depression is a state of mind and also body... so my intent is to find things other than meds.
(I've been through zoloft..bad juju sexual side affects ask hubby. Serzone...zombie state and no memory...and now celexa for 2 days....we'll give it a month and see). I think I'm going to knock off the drugs after giving this last one a try for a month. If it doesn't work I will continue therapy once a week and work on diet, exercise and some more time-consuming "fixes" to see what happens when I WORK at those things, vice go for a pill. Nothing comes easy and YES, I'm definitely diagnosed as "depressed" but I'm fighting to be optimistic that I can beat this !!! I believe the underlying physical imbalance makes us susceptible to the "fog" of depression. I too have a life with gerat things going on and "should not" be depressed. But I was also told that "stress" is not just bad things...all change or highly consuming activity creates some stress within us. Even simply being a workaholic (me) can be a stress all by itself. Hang in there and find what works for YOU! We're all individual... try to find the one thing that starts the cycle on the upward trend again and go with that. It may be that you have a thyroid imbalance? It WILL be the start of something good once you figure out where to start! Don't also become obsessed like I did in trying to find out "why" so much as start just working on one thing at a time one DAY at a time. :-) God Bless and keep me posted!
> I really wish I could figure out what is really going on with me. I was recently diagnosed with Depression (something which I've never had before). I am not going through any serious issues... In fact, my life hasnt been this wonderful in quite a long time. I do not wake up each morning sad/or lack of desire to do things. HOWEVER.. I am experiencing terrible blurry vision, terrible brain fog (I'm having difficulty processing information), and virtually no short term memory/recall. I am also irritible and pissed off most of the time...over silly stuff mostly...something which I've never done in my whole life...
>
> I tried Wellbutrin 300mg daily but it didnt even put a dent in it... As of today, I am trying Celexa but am a bit scared ...most of the bulletins indicated that the people who took Celexa functioned but in some sense,they were a bit numb and out of touch.
>
> I just want to be the way I was just a few months ago... happy go lucky and feeling good. It scares me to think that I'm going to be on drugs..maybe for life.... Does anyone have any positive stories about Celexa? Were you able to get off it after a while?
Posted by Sandra on April 4, 2000, at 10:23:22
In reply to Personal choices/Know yourself/Believe in Yourself, posted by Joy on March 31, 2000, at 20:52:18
Joy,
I like what you said and agree! What we believe in makes all the difference and if we believe we can beat this...we can and we will.
Positive thinking is the toughest thing to suggest to someone with depression but the biggest help. In fact some of us fight it because we know people who tell us to start thinking postiive are right and we don't think or believe in ourselves enough to think we can. But at least when someone suggested it to me I started giving it a try...and lo and behold it sure DIDN'T hurt!!! LOL
God Bless!
> Thanks A. and Cam W.
> I am now reading a book by Michael Murray,N.D.,
> 5-HTP The Natural Way to Overcome Depression,Obesity
> and Insomnia.
> So far it makes sense to me-tho I am not a Dr.
> Alot of the info. strikes home.
>
> Also,no matter what "ailment" a person has....the
> chances are greater of recovery..if that person "believes"
> in the choice of treatment.
>
> And there are times when a person is not so much
> "depressed" as they are "confused" about their life.
> Knowing yourself..with growing up..seeking answers
> within (rather than following others or always seeking
> approval or making others decisions...yours) is
> key to being happy and well adjusted.
>
> Joy
Posted by Lauren Heuss on April 4, 2000, at 11:52:39
In reply to more Celexa sharing, posted by torchgrl on February 9, 2000, at 2:46:11
I just started taking today, and am trying to find out what other people thought. Are there any good websites for information? I was taking Prozac but my doctor took me off that and gave me the Celexa. Anything I should know about?
Posted by Valley Girl on April 4, 2000, at 12:56:03
In reply to Re: To Joy: ices/Know yourself/Believe in Yourself, posted by Sandra on April 4, 2000, at 10:23:22
>Being depressed my whole life with issues of no self esteem and dissassociation, I agree in some respects with what you say. But, as we all know telling someone with depression to take care of themselves is like putting a band-aid on a gapping wound. It all sounds good in books and theory.
Why is so easy for some people to be happy? To go through life smelling the flowers and for others just getting out of bed is their biggest accomplishment. No matter how hard I try to change my life, I get bashed in the face again and again, two steps forward, ten steps back. I do think things happen for a reason. I just can't figure out why I was dealt this hand. I don't ever remember being happy. It should be a simple thing. Although I read somewhere that we make to much out of being happy, we should just not expect that much of it.
Thanks for letting me vent.
Valley GirlJoy,
> I like what you said and agree! What we believe in makes all the difference and if we believe we can beat this...we can and we will.
> Positive thinking is the toughest thing to suggest to someone with depression but the biggest help. In fact some of us fight it because we know people who tell us to start thinking postiive are right and we don't think or believe in ourselves enough to think we can. But at least when someone suggested it to me I started giving it a try...and lo and behold it sure DIDN'T hurt!!! LOL
> God Bless!
> > Thanks A. and Cam W.
> > I am now reading a book by Michael Murray,N.D.,
> > 5-HTP The Natural Way to Overcome Depression,Obesity
> > and Insomnia.
> > So far it makes sense to me-tho I am not a Dr.
> > Alot of the info. strikes home.
> >
> > Also,no matter what "ailment" a person has....the
> > chances are greater of recovery..if that person "believes"
> > in the choice of treatment.
> >
> > And there are times when a person is not so much
> > "depressed" as they are "confused" about their life.
> > Knowing yourself..with growing up..seeking answers
> > within (rather than following others or always seeking
> > approval or making others decisions...yours) is
> > key to being happy and well adjusted.
> >
> > Joy
Posted by Joy on April 4, 2000, at 14:16:25
In reply to Re: To Joy: ices/Know yourself/Believe in Yourself, posted by Valley Girl on April 4, 2000, at 12:56:03
Is there one thing in your life that you enjoy doing? Focus on that one thing. What makes you smile? What little thing gives you hope?
Or is there something you have an interest in..but haven't tried? In this big wonderful world..there is something that makes valley girl curious.
What season of the year do you like? If it's spring/summer..do you enjoy gardening? Take several little pots of bright flowers and arrange them
artistically..sit down in the dirt/grass and focus on putting small rocks around the flowers.Remember as a child how you could get totally involved in some simple task and it would take on such concentration that the rest of the world
seemed far away?How about stitchery?Bike riding?Leaf/stamp/coin/whatever collecting?
I believe we are very IMPORTANT,each and everyone of us on this earth..BIG in the sense of importance...but we can find peace and happiness
in the SMALL things in life.Maybe you like numbers..so plan out something in life through numbers.
Or animals,or playing the accordion..play for the people at a seniors home.Try something to give yourself total focus.
Also,give of yourself to others that are having more problems in their
lives than yourself. There are many.Try something..it could lead you to a wonderful new path!
I have an inspiring story of my late mother-in-law and her life journey
through terminal illness,depression and HOPE.
Another time...I have gone on & on here. :)
Posted by Valley Girl on April 4, 2000, at 14:56:13
In reply to What makes you HAPPY VALLEY GIRL??, posted by Joy on April 4, 2000, at 14:16:25
>No one seems to get it. Life is not enough! What is in it is not enough! Children, grandchildren are not enough. I think that happiness is an illusion. It is putting that carrot in front of your nose and dangling it there and never can you get a nibble. To force myself to enjoy something is the problem. It should not be hard to enjoy something. Like I said, if I even try to enjoy something, something happens to make me pay.
And I am on Celexa. It sure isn't helping me!
Thanks for trying!
Is there one thing in your life that you enjoy doing? Focus on that one thing. What makes you smile? What little thing gives you hope?
> Or is there something you have an interest in..but haven't tried? In this big wonderful world..there is something that makes valley girl curious.
> What season of the year do you like? If it's spring/summer..do you enjoy gardening? Take several little pots of bright flowers and arrange them
> artistically..sit down in the dirt/grass and focus on putting small rocks around the flowers.
>
> Remember as a child how you could get totally involved in some simple task and it would take on such concentration that the rest of the world
> seemed far away?
>
> How about stitchery?Bike riding?Leaf/stamp/coin/whatever collecting?
>
> I believe we are very IMPORTANT,each and everyone of us on this earth..BIG in the sense of importance...but we can find peace and happiness
> in the SMALL things in life.
>
> Maybe you like numbers..so plan out something in life through numbers.
> Or animals,or playing the accordion..play for the people at a seniors home.
>
> Try something to give yourself total focus.
> Also,give of yourself to others that are having more problems in their
> lives than yourself. There are many.
>
> Try something..it could lead you to a wonderful new path!
> I have an inspiring story of my late mother-in-law and her life journey
> through terminal illness,depression and HOPE.
> Another time...I have gone on & on here. :)
Posted by Sherry on April 4, 2000, at 15:14:46
In reply to Re: What makes you HAPPY VALLEY GIRL??, posted by Valley Girl on April 4, 2000, at 14:56:13
I get it Valley Girl. I know exactly where you are coming from. I enjoy house cleaning, but you should see my house. It's hard to enjoy when it takes all your effort to just move. I enjoy being clean, but damned if I don't let my shower go more than I like to. I guess we are just wallowing in self-pity, and until we straighten up we will never get better. Not!
> >No one seems to get it. Life is not enough! What is in it is not enough! Children, grandchildren are not enough. I think that happiness is an illusion. It is putting that carrot in front of your nose and dangling it there and never can you get a nibble. To force myself to enjoy something is the problem. It should not be hard to enjoy something. Like I said, if I even try to enjoy something, something happens to make me pay.
>
> And I am on Celexa. It sure isn't helping me!
>
> Thanks for trying!
>
>
>
>
> Is there one thing in your life that you enjoy doing? Focus on that one thing. What makes you smile? What little thing gives you hope?
> > Or is there something you have an interest in..but haven't tried? In this big wonderful world..there is something that makes valley girl curious.
> > What season of the year do you like? If it's spring/summer..do you enjoy gardening? Take several little pots of bright flowers and arrange them
> > artistically..sit down in the dirt/grass and focus on putting small rocks around the flowers.
> >
> > Remember as a child how you could get totally involved in some simple task and it would take on such concentration that the rest of the world
> > seemed far away?
> >
> > How about stitchery?Bike riding?Leaf/stamp/coin/whatever collecting?
> >
> > I believe we are very IMPORTANT,each and everyone of us on this earth..BIG in the sense of importance...but we can find peace and happiness
> > in the SMALL things in life.
> >
> > Maybe you like numbers..so plan out something in life through numbers.
> > Or animals,or playing the accordion..play for the people at a seniors home.
> >
> > Try something to give yourself total focus.
> > Also,give of yourself to others that are having more problems in their
> > lives than yourself. There are many.
> >
> > Try something..it could lead you to a wonderful new path!
> > I have an inspiring story of my late mother-in-law and her life journey
> > through terminal illness,depression and HOPE.
> > Another time...I have gone on & on here. :)
Posted by TOM on April 5, 2000, at 17:42:47
In reply to Re: What makes you HAPPY VALLEY GIRL??, posted by Sherry on April 4, 2000, at 15:14:46
> > >No one seems to get it. Life is not enough! What is in it is not enough! Children, grandchildren are not enough. I think that happiness is an illusion. It is putting that carrot in front of your nose and dangling it there and never can you get a nibble. To force myself to enjoy something is the problem. It should not be hard to enjoy something. Like I said, if I even try to enjoy something, something happens to make me pay.
> >
> > And I am on Celexa. It sure isn't helping me!
> >
> > Thanks for trying!Valley Girl
It seems to me that you are wallowing in a lot of self pity. I'm not trying to say I'm perfect or anything, far from it. The point of what you wrote is incorrect, though. Enjoyment IS something you have to work for. It's not going to be thrown in your lap. Especially if you are unfortunate enough to be suffering from emotional illness. I've come to learn that the only way to achieve happiness & enjoyment in life is to go out & take it. Best of luck.
Posted by Joy on April 5, 2000, at 17:51:08
In reply to Re: What makes you HAPPY VALLEY GIRL??, posted by Sherry on April 4, 2000, at 15:14:46
I am sure you have heard, that this is IT. This isn't a dress rehearsal..this is the only life we get..right now.If your med's. aren't working ---how important are YOU to YOU?
Get help. Read everything about your illness you can. Don't wait. Research. Find a thread of hope. Seek out some answers. Make it your purpose. Since you have had children,
(I won't say do it for them.) having children is tough,raising them is tough,heck..life is tough sometimes.You have obviously toughed it out through the years...can you try a little more? For you?
Maybe I don't get it...as far as you are concerned...I haven't "walked in your shoes". But I do know that the human spirit wants the goodness,happiness.So don't try to "force" yourself to be happy..find some answers as to why you are unhappy.
Posted by Valley Girl on April 6, 2000, at 7:26:26
In reply to Re: What makes you HAPPY VALLEY GIRL??, posted by Joy on April 5, 2000, at 17:51:08
>I have been in therapy for most of my adult life. 30 plus years. I keep hearing the same thing over and over. I don't understand that happiness has to be hard work. Our parents selfishly put us here for their egotistical or plain stupid reasons and now we're stuck. Life sucks and then you die. But for me you don't die soon enough, you get dragged through hell for what purpose? So you can die! Believe me, I have researched mental health, physical and psychic (I am extremely intutitive and empathic). I thought this was my problem, because I react to everyones emotions around me. I hate knowing what other people think and what is going to happen to them. I have tried, through various methods, to get control of this "gift". Say what you want. I have been there and done that. I am just sick of it all. I am on meds. I have tried natural, homeopathic you name it. Nothing works for me. I am glad that others benefit from meds and positive attitudes. Depression, is what is here for me in this life. I guess I am suppose to learn something from it. Sorry for being such a downer. I can only see the yucky underside of the rock, not the beautiful shiney side!
I am not wallowing in self pity. I just want someone to understand that happiness is or contentment is a hard thing for some us even to understand.
Valley Girl
I am sure you have heard, that this is IT. This isn't a dress rehearsal..this is the only life we get..right now.If your med's. aren't working ---how important are YOU to YOU?
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> Get help. Read everything about your illness you can. Don't wait. Research. Find a thread of hope. Seek out some answers. Make it your purpose. Since you have had children,
> (I won't say do it for them.) having children is tough,raising them is tough,heck..life is tough sometimes.
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> You have obviously toughed it out through the years...can you try a little more? For you?
> Maybe I don't get it...as far as you are concerned...I haven't "walked in your shoes". But I do know that the human spirit wants the goodness,happiness.
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> So don't try to "force" yourself to be happy..find some answers as to why you are unhappy.
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