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Re: freedom of speech

Posted by alexandra_k on February 1, 2021, at 14:56:04

In reply to Re: freedom of speech, posted by rjlockhart37 on January 8, 2021, at 22:39:33

I don't know what to think / what I think about the vaccine. I suppose I think it is complicated.

Once upon a time people used to argue about medication vs psychotherapy. But then people learned that there are many different kinds of each, so it doesn't really make sense to think in such broad terms.

I mean to say... There are many many different kinds of medication and just because one isn't such a good one doesn't say much of anything about a different one. And then you have different doses to worry about... What kind of a dosing is theraputic.

And presently the situation with vaccines is that we have many different types or kinds of vaccine that have been developed for Covid. And there are different dosing reigimes, too, with respect to one vs two doses and whether you have them 4 or 6 weeks apart...

Even something about whether you have 1/2 a dose now and 1/2 a dose later...

And who knows... Who knows what dose is optimal for what group of people. Who knows. Nobody knows... Until after the shots have been given and we have the data back of who got sick and who didn't seem to. Nobody knows.

But...

There's educated guesses that can be made on the basis of similarity with other things... It isn't so very very often that things are truly surprising. So if we know that people with auto-immune diseases tend to have auto-immune responses to certain types of vaccine then that will likely hold true in this case too...

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In New Zealand we have a lot of researchers (or should I call them ''researchers'') who hide behind being located in a small country. They bang on about how we can't get anything done because things are too hard.. Wah wah. Wah wah wah... They work on their projects of trying to get vaccines developed -- and their vaccines will never be developed in their lifetime. They aren't actually making progress. Their job is just to junk up the University ensuring that research slave students don't get paid very much and don't have opportunities to work for competent things that are being produced and developed. Their job is simply to be spanners in teh works, insofar as I can tell / see.

And then the US comes out and says (about vaccines -- but also about medications and health technologies generally as with things like aerospace and other technological advances) it really isn't about 'if' it's all about 'when'. We know we can do various things and it's just a matter of how quickly they can be implemented / rolled out is al. It's just a matter of how much of a money investement it costs to get things moving along quicker. That's all.

We just trickle a little money into leaky taps. And the ideology is that it's all just pie in the sky and you spend your entire life writing one article for publication... Yawn........... Work moooooooooooooore slooooooooooooooooooooooooowly. Slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooower... Sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooower... We haven't finished reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeading it yet...

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Which vaccine to get? If you got a choice... Would you think that the Moderna one... Which one... Which one would be better for you? How much of an initial dose? 1/2 a dose or a whole dose? Then how long before the next dose? COuld we factor in what kind of an immune system you have? Do you have allergies? Does that help us decide? Could we do an antibody test and see when is optimaly for *your* second dosing?

We can just stick it to the herd like cattle...

But there's so much we know and can do... If people care...

Which they don't.

Yeppers.

 

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