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Re: Nardil/phenelzine at 45mg (Lotsa Questions, Sorry)

Posted by greg rizzo on January 15, 2020, at 8:25:13

In reply to Re: Nardil/phenelzine at 45mg (Lotsa Questions, Sorry), posted by kirkglen on March 20, 2014, at 12:35:41

Dr. Bob-From the descriptions of others, research and my own experiences, I believe there are two problems with the new nardil as compared to the old:
1) new nardil is absorbed before it reaches the new intestine
2) even if new nardil does reach the new intestine, the absorbtion *rate* is off balance
That's why placing nardil in plasmin plus enteric tabs were only partially effective. yes, more phenelzine would likely survive the trip through the stomach, but once the enteric tab dissolved, the nardil itself won't be absorbed to the maximum level without an excipient to aid it.
The best excipients to aid absorption into the small intestine are bioperine,sugar invert (a.k.a. honey) an antacid, and ethanol (alcohol). Sugar is quite good, but the absorbtion rate, though high, is relatively slow.
As far as absorption into the small intestine, NOTHING beats alcohol. It's rate and level of absorption by the small intestine is extremely high. Obviously, I don't mean kick back shots of tequila, I'm talking mere drops of the substance.
Therefore mixing nardil with either honey or alcohol has been much more effective. I also take Bydureon, which slows digestion (long acting Byetta similar to Victoza, a GLP1 agonist) and which I suspect may be having some impact on how I absorb Nardil (even though I try to always take on an empty stomach).
Been trying this for 2 1/2 weeks and seems to be working. Haven't had a down day in those 2 1/2 weeks.




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