Posted by Lou Pilder on May 29, 2013, at 11:37:53
In reply to Lou's reply-suicide-effexor, posted by Lou Pilder on May 29, 2013, at 10:55:58
> > > > >But going ahead anyway, it is when the drug is combined with another drug that can induce somnolence, the exponential aspect of ramping up the {depressive} aspect of the central nervous system happens, and can be to such that failure of the nervous system can happen which causes death.
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> > > > True CNS depressants such as the general anesthetics suppress all aspects of CNS function and can cause both respiratory and cardiovascular depression. Neither Effexor nor Trileptal works like this. Both meds have the potential to cause drowsiness in some cases but sleep does not equal respiratory depression. If a person taking a combination of Effexor and Trileptal felt drowsy, they may indeed sleep. It is not appropriate to suggest that this would result in death.
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> > > ed,
> > > On the contrary. People die from taking two drugs that can depress the cns. A few months ago, a girl died here . She took a pain pill and later before bed she had a mixed drink. She died in her sleep and the report stated it was the combination of the drug and the alcohol taken that killed her.
> > > The drug Effexor is listed as having the effects exponentially magnified when another drug such as Trileptal is taken together.
> > > Now Effexor by itself has the aspect of addiction/withdrawal. And the drug can increase suicidal and homicidal thinking and when in withdrawal the person could kill themselves and/or others and even commit mass-murder. If someone wants to promote a drug that could cause the taker of the drug to kill themselves, I think that it is even more appropriate to warn those people concerning combining the drug wiht another psychotropic drug that could exponentially increase the aspect of death.
> > > Lou
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> > Friends,
> > Now here I a link showing what has been reported when Effexor and alcohol are combined.
> > Notice the suicide attempts and the completed suicides. I think that readers here should have as amny facts as they can to make an informed decision as to tske these drugs or not.
> > Lou
> > http://www.ehealthme.com/drug-interactions/effexor-and-alcohol
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> > Friends,
> The drug, Effexor, has the warning from the FDA that taking the drug could increase suicidal thinking. But it is much more than that for when the drug is combined with other mind-altering drugs, there can be an exponential increase in adverse events.
> Here is a link showing the suicidal ideation aspect of those that take Effexor. Notice that this is a huge number, statistically that is.
> Lou
> http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/effexor/suicidal+ideation> Friends,
There are sites that do not permit anecdotal posts. I agree with doing that unless all anecdotal reports could be included, which could be impossible. Now just because one person says that they fell out of an airplane at 10000 feet and survived, that does not mean that you would if you took that fall. This is the potential deception of anecdotal in particular here. That is why I do not accept anecdotal posts. The ones that say that they like a drug could be the EXCEPTION, not the RULE. (emphasis mine).
And in a lot of anecdotal reports that I have read that promote a psychotropic drug, the person had taken previously other psychotropic drugs that created permanent damage already to them so that taking the drug promoted could not do any more damage to that already done. And then those people can leave out any horrors that they experienced on the drug leading people falsely to believe in only what is posted.
Here is another anecdotal report on Effexor so that readers could make a more informed decision as to drug themselves or their child in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor with this drug.
I want readers to have all of the facts. And for every anecdotal report here that I see that promotes a mind-altering drug that could induce the person to kill themselves and/or others, I will give you three.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20010212/msgs/53878.html
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