Posted by Lamdage on July 11, 2011, at 10:58:01
In reply to Up to 67.5, posted by Lamdage on July 10, 2011, at 7:21:39
Ok my "lost excipient" formula so far is:
2 teaspoons of:
Kaolin
Gelatine
White wheat flour
Methocel
Calcium CarbonateThen:
Honey Powder (small teaspoon)
Potassium Carbonate (just a hint)
Bioperine (just a hint)
Carnauba wax (just a hint)
Magnesium Stearate (just a hint)Again like i said i mix this "lost ingredient formula" with nardil 1-2. 1/3 lost ingredients 2/3 nardil.
The coating with foodlac (food grade shellac-ethanol solution) works OK. Ive bought a nail-lac bottle and cleansed it thoroughly. This is where i put the shellac in and "paint" it on the capsules. I use a normal Capsule maker and put the capsules in there in a way so 2/3 of the capsules stick out. (you will figure out how to accomplish this).
Then i coat them carefully, let it dry for 24 hours and turn them 180 degrees and do the same again with the other end. I do this so that there are at least 2 films of shellac on each half. This means 2x coating the top and 2x coating the bottom. The top and bottom films are overlapping, this is important. After the 4 (or 2 if you will so) coatings, again i let it dry for 48 hours. This way the caps get nice and hard.
Whats also important is, that humidity is the enemy of enteric coating with shellac. This means excess air exposure is NOT good for the caps to dry. I put it in a carton and close it, only venting it once every 8 hours or so.Its a bit of a pain, for sure. Its kinda difficult and time consuming but once you get the swing of it its OK. I recommend getting "000" Pills and putting 45mg in each to make the effort worth it.
Id say that 2/3 of my caps reach the intestine intact or 90% intact. The remainder may have opened in advance BUT my formula is alot more alkaline than pfizers original and in this case the formula will not have been exposed to stomach acid for a very long time.I bought two very handy items and i recommend these to anyone trying to create their own interpretation of nardil :
A large 5 pound heavy granite mortar. Capable to crush like 10 pills at a time. (poor little nardil pills) :D
And a medium quality coffee grinder, capable of grinding espresso size particles.
Makes life alot easier.
I have alot of trouble figuring out about this "Acacia". Id like to have a CAS number or an accurate unmistakeable name.
There are lots of different products from Acacia Catechu. If i had to bet id say that the astringent action is why it was in nardil but i could be very wrong. Ive read somewhere that some catechu products actually block absorption of alot of substances. Maybe someone can enlighten me.Besides that id like to bring a hint of alcohol into the formula, but im not really sure how to do this. I dont want the inside of the capsules to be wet and sticky cuz i want them to have a good "shelf life". Any ideas?
On a quest to make the ultimate nardil!
Ld
Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, severe
Refractory atypical double depression, severe
Social anxiety disorder, moderate
ADD, inattentive, mild
Hints of borderline
Nardil 67.5mg
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