Posted by bleauberry on July 8, 2011, at 4:19:13
In reply to oleptra, posted by markwell on July 7, 2011, at 18:09:14
I feel sort of reluctant to put much faith in that med as well, but ya know, you just never know. I would have a lot more promise if the meds in question included one of the following: parnate, nardil, zoloft with nortriptyline, prozac with zyprexa, prozac with ritalin.
That said, when a whole variety of ADs fails to help someone, that to me is a clue they are barking up the wrong tree.....the problem is something else, not primarily the neurotransmitters. That's where you can start seeing real improvement with other things such as anti=inflammation herbs, pro-immune herbs, and anti-infection herbs. Your neurotransmitters might be perfectly capable of doing their job but are being comprised by a pathogenic influence. And thus not amount of increasing the neurotransmitters would help much....they're still comprised. That''s how I see these kinds of "treatment resistant" situations anyway. Pure unadulterated logic based on your history, so simple it evades us, says ADs might be the wrong approach in this case. Neurotransmitter deficiency theory is only one of multiple causes of mood disturbance, and unfortunately most patients and doctors completely ignore the other depression causing problems.
Case in point. Most lyme patients have depression. Most lyme patients do not find psych meds helpful. Most experience an antidepressant effect on antibiotics or herbs, but not ADs. That's because in their cases, the poop and pee of pathogenic organisms was causing the problem, not a lack of neurotransmitters.
Of course, none of it is simple. Much of it is guess work or detective work. As is much of medicine anyway. But clearly, when a bunch of ADs fail, I think it makes sense to expand the boundaries outside the psych toolbox.
Food for thought.
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