Posted by bleauberry on July 2, 2011, at 20:35:55
In reply to Re: Zyprexa - Reluctant to Take » bleauberry, posted by morgan miller on June 27, 2011, at 23:01:48
> I'm very surprised to hear you talk so highly of Zyprexa BB. You do know this and other APs have the potential to shrink brain volume? They did in monkeys. Monkeys aren't humans. Different is different. Just that simple.
So much of science really isn't....who funded it, what grant paid for it, etc. Science has to be provable, duplicatable, and predictable.
Well, I guess I'm glad I'm not a monkey! :-)
I don't put a whole ton of faith in studies that attempt to translate to humans what happened in mice or monkeys or whatever.
The depression itself, or in my view the cause of it which is usually not being explored or treated, is going to do more damage than zyprexa.
I'm not so sure I buy the whole premise anyway. I mean, I was on zyprexa for 8 years and I'm better after it than before it. So if my brain shrank, well, i feel better with a shrunk brain! :)
Honestly, instinctually, I feel the ssri's are very risky for the brain in long term usage (several years). I believe they create some bizarre brain changes over time, more than any other psych meds, and more bizarre. There's something about exclusively blocking the serotonin reuptake pump that just aint right. I don't know what exactly, just aint right. Zyprexa somehow helped to recode some genes that needed it. Unfortunately I need the weight gaining gene tweeking right now because I'm so skinny. Kind of extreme I think to take an antipsychotic just to gain weight. So not on my radar screen. But, as I said, I am a fan of zyprexa while at the same time very skeptical of many of the other antipsychotics and ssris.
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> If it's only been 6 wks hang in there. Maybe you need to raise the dose?
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> What other antidepressants have you been on?
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> Sorry if my previous post sounded a bit abrasive. I just get frustrated with the psych industry sometimes. IMO, if you are doing something just out of desperation, it's often the case it might not be the best decision. Try to wait this one out until you have exhausted all options. Antipsychotics are bad news, all of them. These drugs should only be used as a last resort in all cases.
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> Morgan
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