Posted by medtrier on December 11, 2010, at 20:12:48
In reply to Re: Stick with Nardil!, posted by mantus on December 11, 2010, at 9:39:35
Hi,
My problems are similar to yours in that they don't seem to have a source either.
Parnate uses lower doses than nardil. from what i recall 10 mg. parnate = 15 mg. nardil
I was started at 30 per day, and stayed there for about 3 weeks. Then, I went up to 60/day, and stayed there for 4 weeks. Then i went up to 90. During this whole increase, parnate was the only thing i was taking.
As you said, it is really tough waiting, becuase you need something to work fast. benzodiazapines like ativan may be your best bet, because stimulants are contraindicated with MAOI's.
Lithium was recommended by someone as something to go with MAOI's. But I don't know how quickly they work. Some antipsychotics may help as well, since they sometimes start to take effect in under a week. Nuvigil/provigil may be worth a shot as well.
I was on 90 mg. of parnate for a week or so when abilify was brought into the equation. It seemed like it was helping, but that was probably the 90 taking more effect. Because going from 2 to 5 mg. of abilify made things worse.
The strange thing about anxiety and depression is that they are two sides of the same coin. Sometimes what appears to be "anxiety" is more the result of "depression," as in my case. I was labeled with "anxiety" but "anxiety" medicines never did anything for me. Then i went on parnate, which is only for "depression" and then things got significantly better.
As far as what it helps, that goes for most of my symptoms: headaches, fatigue, intrusive thoughts, irritable bowel, lethargy, lack of motivation, pain all over my body, chest pain, stomach aches, constipation, irritable/overactive bowels, imbalanced sex drive, trouble breathing, and overall just feeling "crappy." For the first time in years i feel half-alive.
It helps me to concentrate away from obsessive, repetative negative thoughts, but it doesn't remove the thoughts, and doesn't really help me concentrate on reading, tasks, etc. But overall i'm much better off. heck, i pay $170 per month out of pocket for it.
Since stopping ablify, i have been on 90 mg. parnate by itself again for 10 days. I do know it is helping a lot, but I need more help from parnate. So I may just need to give several weeks for it to peak, since so much of my time on the 90 mg. was with abilify.
Sorry that this is so long!
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