Posted by ace on December 6, 2010, at 23:54:59
In reply to Re: Thoughts please.... Nardil + Xanax + more » ace, posted by Tomatheus on December 6, 2010, at 12:33:58
> Ace,
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> See below for my responses...
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> > I'm NOT joking and I stand by my comment.
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> I find it puzzling how you can stand by your comment that there is absolutely NO evidence to support a biological basis for depression when I just presented you with some evidence. Don't you think it would be reasonable to adjust your views as evidence presents itself?
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> > And I don't appreciate your comment about 'living under a rock". Why not just say "I disagree"?
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> I'm sorry if you felt offended and if I made my point too forcefully. I don't, however, think that saying "I disagree" would have been appropriate because we were talking about a matter of fact, not opinion.But I personally felt a tone of anger in that statement. And that is OK. It is OK for people to be angry with each other. But i think on a site like this we must be very gentle with each other. I may be totally off base, and I apologize if I am. I respect your opinion and I hope you do mine.
> > However let me qualify my former statement:
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> > Their is absolutely NO conclusive external evidence, external valid criteria, that their is a unified biological basis for depression or ANY psychopathology.
> > There is only speculation, sometimes ridiculously naive, and sometime very intelligent.
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> From my perspective, that seems to be a departure from your previous statement, not a qualification of it, but you may disagree.I do disagree. It's an elaboration on my former statement. I am expanding on what I stated, not departing/negating from it in any way I feel. On this site I have said the same thing many times. Sometimes more cogently and articulate, sometimes less so.
I think the key word that you used in this most recent statement is "unified." With that word being part of your statement, I agree with you,
but I wouldn't expect there to be a unified biological basis for a disorder that's heterogeneous.
but I would think this lends even more credence to my view?
> > For a doctor to say "You suffer a biochemical imbalance" (with regards to psychopathology) is a falsehood. It MAY be true, but not now, not any time in the past.
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> > For a doctor to say " I THINK you suffer a biochemical imbalance" (with regards to psychopathology) is plausible.
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> On this point, I agree.
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> I also wish you the best of luck in making the appropriate adjustments to your medications.Thankyou.
I'm sorry that I don't have much to offer you in the way of advice in that area.
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> TomatheusTomatheus, thankyou for your post. You voiced an opinion honestly and sincerely, and didn't sit on the fence. I respectthat. Absolutely no hard feelings this way. Hope the same applies for you. If we do disagree on certain things, that's a good thing I feel. Life would be pretty boring if we all had the same views.
All the very best,
Ace
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