Posted by Michelle41 on February 23, 2010, at 19:40:46
In reply to Re: My roller coaster ride with SSRI's, posted by bleauberry on February 23, 2010, at 18:50:34
> In the short term...when they work...ssris can save people. In the longrun, almost every story turns out like yours. With a whole array of bizarre biological changes that truly make the treatment worse than the initial disease. That's what I've seen anyway. The stories of longterm ssri usage that are still positive after many years are very few.
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> I can't help but think that it is all caused by such an imbalance of high serotonin from the drugs. Or maybe it is the reuptake blocking function itself that just screws up the whole natural flow of things. Or a combination of both. I don't know.
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> I think it has only been in the last couple years that reports like yours are showing up more and more often. We know it's happening, but I think the academics, pharmaceutical executives, FDA and physicians turn a blind eye to it. After all, it would make them look pretty bad after all these years of pushing them like candy. Better to ignore it and keep stories like yours hidden from view.
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> After about 12 years of paxil, prozac, zoloft, and lexapro, my story is similar to yours. I found the only way out was to abandon them and do something else that wasn't so imbalanced toward serotonin. The best I've found is Savella or Parnate or Amisulpride. I imagine a low dose of abilify stands a decent chance combined with just about any AD. My baseline without meds, after a torturous 3 month cleaning out, isn't really much worse than being on meds. Except for the good meds I mentioned, which actually do provide some life quality improvement.
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> I don't think your symptoms are all to blame on aging hormone changes or dosage changes.
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> If you are considering lexapro or celexa, I would say wrong move. They have no appreciable difference to anything you've already done. Believe it or not, a med strong on norepinephrine such as Savella, or a med strong on all the neuros, such as Parnate, can work a lot better on anxiety, panic, palpitations, than a pure ssri.
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> The hard part for now is weathering the storm while you contemplate what to do, and weather it some more after you begin changing something. That's when temporary as-needed help can provide the stepping stones to get through it. Passionflower, valerian, xanax, lorazepam, and such.
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> It sucks getting old and it sucks being on ssris past their welcome.
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>I totally agree with you, bleauberry :) I think what has happened to me is that my brain has had way too much serotonin! I am going to see my Pdoc next Wednesday so hopefully he will agree to try norepinephrine med to alleviate the panic symptoms I am having.. And hopefully more xanax!
I am also going to make an appt with an endocrinologist soon to address the lactating and no periods.. I think my thyroid or adrenals may have issues..
I think I will keep tapering off the prozac and see if I get better.. I went off of it in November of 09 so hopefully I can stay off of it for good! The only reason I went back on was due to increased anxiety.. That started to happen in September. The reason I believe my anxiety was triggered was due to taking on a full time job (only had part time jobs before) And there was an issue with one of my co workers ( she went off the deep end and threatened to kill people at work, she was fired for that)There was a big investigation and I had to go in front of HR and the police to tell them what she did/said to me and my co workers..
I do have xanax which I take very sparingly ( a small bit does wonders!) I am worried that I would become dependent on them though :(
I really appreciate all the help from you and everyone else here! I am having a hard time dealing with this right now :( It is comforting to know that there are others who can relate to my situation :D
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