Posted by bleauberry on September 27, 2009, at 6:40:58
In reply to UltraMind Solution...dairy / gluten allergies?, posted by uncouth on September 26, 2009, at 20:38:03
Before I comment some opinions, let me first make this clear...ALL medical treatments, herbal treatments, and dietary treatments are EXPERIMENTAL.
What we can do with modern technology is roam the world via internet and discover what actual patients have to say about their experiences. In doint so, we will find that one of the biggest improvements in Autistic children is to avoid gluten and dairy. We also find many autistic children improve with heavy metal chelation, with the assumption the metals accumulated in genetically prone individuals from the preservatives in their infancy immunity shots, which are 50% mercury. Mercury just happens to mess up a whole of things, including enzymes that transform a dairy protein called cassein into its proper safe metabolites, and a grain protein called gluten into its proper metabolites. When those enzymes are disabled, those proteins turn into other substances which fall in the category of neurotoxins.
I know your question is not about Autism. The point is, the same kind of reasoning overlaps into all diseases. Might not be mercury or gluten, but it is something, and we can find out what the possibilites are when we look to those who were cured or improved. Those cases happen more outside the doctor's office than inside. Thousands of mothers have been forced to self-treat and self-experiment with their own children because their doctors proved themselves impotent to help. It is in those thousands of experimental mothers we find a huge body of evidence of what works and what doesn't.
None of this is heavily studied. Again, all treatments are experimental. We have to look at what works, and we may never know why it works. It's no different in psychiatry. When Paxil works for someone, we don't know why.
As an analogy, I believe every ailment is like a lock that needs a key. The problem is there are 100 keys. It might be an herbal one, a pharm one, or a dietary one. We have to try a bunch of keys, including ones that do not appear to make much sense at first glance.
Even healthy people I know swear they feel better without gluten.
I was diagnosed with gluten intolerance due to extremely high gluten antibodies. When I don't eat gluten, I don't feel any improvement. I do avoid a mild hangover feeling. I do avoid a flareup of a stubborn abcess. If I eat gluten, I get a bit hungover the next day and the abcess flares up. In terms of depression, it has not helped much. But it does help many people. In my opinion, if there is a gluten intolerance it is itself a symptom, not a disease of its own, that is caused by a bigger disease such as Candida, metals, adrenal fatigue, unsuspected infectious agents, bad food choices, and even medicines themselves. The gluten intolerance is just a sign that something bigger is at play. With the exception of Celiac disease, which is a genetic flaw in breaking down gluten molecules.
But it is definitely worth a look because so many people ARE helped. And it's easy. Stop both dairy and gluten (wheat, rye, oats, barley, barley malt) for a week minimum, two weeks better. Then introduce each one back in, one at a time, and see what happens. You may notice no difference when you stop them, or you may notice a big difference. You may notice no difference when you restart them, and maybe a big difference. That is the easiest test to do. And free.
Well, actually it isn't that easy. I say that because if you eat burgers, pizzas, cereals, pastas...well, you're gonna be missing a lot of your favorite foods. General Mills Rice Chex is gluten free. Whole Foods Market has frozen gluten free pizza, and various pastas. They have an entire gluten free section with cookies, cake mixes, cereals, flours, everything. In their frozen food section is the only gluten free bread of more than a dozen I've tried that is really good....Millet Potato Bread. It is just like regular bread in taste and texture. They have good frozen gluten free donuts, vanilla frosted or cinnamon sugar.
You gotta read ingredient labels. Lots of things have in them "barley malt" as flavoring. That is gluten. Most oats have gluten from cross contamination in the fields.
Also avoid anything with MSG. If an ingredient label says "natural flavoring", avoid it for your test.
Rice or soy dairy products are substitutes for cow dairy. Not perfect, but good enough for a short dairy-free trial.
You are definitely on the right path looking for a biochemical explanation for psychiatry's failure with you. I mean, for example, if you have mercury molecules clogging up various receptors, is extra serotonin going to convince mercury to pack up its bags and leave? No. How about a hidden unsuspected infection...Candida, Borellia, parasites, various bacteria. Is extra serotonin going to chase them away? No. How about hypodadrenalism? Nothing works if cortisol is in the dumps. All of these things have massive negative impact on the brain, through powerful neurotoxins and through disruption of many biochemical pathways involved in receptor function and neurotransmitter function.
I live in a sparsely populated State but there are several Integrative MDs within 20 minutes, so you shouldn't have any problem finding one where you are. When you do, go in with specifics. Don't let them just guide you. You guide them. For example, "I want a DMSA urine challenge test, I want the Adrenal Stress Index Test, I want a trial of Doxycylcine for one week, I want a trial of Wormwood for one week". You can nail a ton of unsuspected nervous system diseases with these tests. Then you'll know what you're dealing with instead of guessing.
Where you are you will also have access to Chinese herbal experts. These people can be unsung geniuses. They know nothing about science. But they do know what plants work for what symptoms. They won't see you symptoms as you see them. For example, depression may be seen as a damp clogged liver or damp kidney. Good herbs would be ones with colors red and yellow that grow in bright sunshine. Plants that clean out toxins and cure fevers normally grow in damp shaded areas. Plants good for the bones actually have boney structures themselves. It is an entirely different way of diagnosis and treatment which seems completely absurd and ridiculous to us science buffs. We try to explain everything and want proof of everything, even though none of that exists. All that matters is that something will get someone well. Herbalists and Integrative MDs have toolboxes full of those kinds of things, and thousands of real-people experiences abound. Many are nothing short of miracles, when modern medicine failed.
You may find yourself being prescribed St Johns Wort, Lemon Balm, 5htp, tyrosine. How could these possibly work when ECT failed? Well, in the hands of a practitioner that knows what they are doing, these things do work amazing when medicine failed. That's why I do not see them as alternative treatments. I believe they should be primary treatments. Psychiatry should be the alternative treatment.
The best antidepressants I ever experienced were: Doxycycline, DMSA, puny dose hydrocortisone. I am but one of thousands with similar stories.
I am cheering for you. It is a new chapter. Hope abounds. Real answers are not far away. But again, everything in or out of a doctor's office is experimental. Keeping an open mind allows one to find the perfect key. It is a wise mind. The foolish mind pretends to have wisdom it does not have, and throws away keys recklessly based on hunch or theory.
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