Posted by doxogenic boy on September 24, 2009, at 15:33:32
In reply to Re: Tianeptine addiction, posted by Helena24 on September 24, 2009, at 14:50:34
> There are 2 sorts of "working":
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> 1)working agains depression,dark thoughts, emotional outbursts, anger, anhedonia disphoria ,insomnia (tianeptine in the evening stimulates me but in the morning hours/after 4 it gives me a high quality sleep at the same dosage of 2-3 pills/maybe that's due to it's interaction with circadian cortisol levels or it's just my delayed shift disorder).
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> In this way tianeptine still works for me after 3 years/modafinil does do not much besides to get me up in the morning now.
-----I have used modafinil some years ago, but it worsened my depression. Could it work better in combination with tianeptine and can modafinil worsen anxiety disorders?
> 2)the second way of working is agains apathy/procrastination/difficulty concentrating / ADD symtoms /LACK OF MOTIVATION /NOT STARTING THINGS
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> In this way the combination of tianeptine and modafinil worked about a year and a half although there were small periods during that time where it didn't work so good.(I needed a lot of will-power.)
------This is interesting.
Maybe I should give modafinil (added to the tianeptine) a new try if the lithium augmentation doesn't work. I take tianeptine three times a day, and about one hour after each dose, I feel more calm. This effect may last up to a few hours.
> Now tianeptine just "takes the pain away" and still does help me to do "easy" things like washing the dishes etc but not to start learning for exams and stuff like that.
> Procrastination and fatique are my biggest problems.
------That are big problems for me, too. I have tried Dexedrine, but it increased the anxiey severely.
> Still for me tianeptine is a live-saver.
> It is the best AD I ever took and I took a lot.
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> I'm afraid I have to get off it for a year or so to make it "work" again in the *2nd* way.
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> I have also a problem with social isolation.
> I can't enjoy social relationships.
> It's not anxiety,it's anhedonia.
> Tianeptine never did a lot for this issue.
> I have to force myself to socialize,I haven't the "drive" to do it.
------Buprenorphine worked wonders against both my anhedonia and social phobia, but only for some months.
> High doses of tianeptine are much more stimulating and activating than the modafinil due to the dopamin-thing...modafinil just enhances the stimulating effect of the tianeptine...it's an augmentor.
-----Could 225 mg tianeptine work better than 150 mg?
Increasing the tianeptine dose is the easiest thing I can do.doxogenic
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