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Re: Tianeptine addiction

Posted by Helena24 on September 24, 2009, at 4:24:44

In reply to Re: Tianeptine addiction, posted by desolationrower on September 24, 2009, at 2:47:51

Yes.
For many years these drugs were not available in my country.I searched for them desperatly 10 years ago.
In 2003 I traveled to another country to by desipramine.
I had a good reaction to it in very low doses 25mg/day.Higher doses were contraproductive/made it worse.
A cocktail that was good for me was 200mg Modafinil+25mg Desipramine in the morning +100-200mg Seroquel(for sleep).
My functioning was good for a while but it fadet with time.

Desipramine and Reboxetine aren't available and I would have to order them via internet.

Desipramine is a good drug but Stablon is much better for my symptoms.
I never tried them in combination though.

I think I could benefit from a larger dose of 24 or even 30 pills Stablon per day but that would be to expensive at this time.

I can get every drug available in my country over my health-insurance.
Tianeptine isn't available but even if it were no doctor would prescribe it in these amounts.

I would give any money that I have for a drug that would restore my functionig completly.
Sadly Tianeptine doesn't at this point.

If I had free access to drugs I would add some Ritalin or Dexedrine to the Tianeptine but that isn't possible.
Doctors in my country are very biased and there are strict laws.

I never tried Parnate wich also isn't available.
I would try it.

I took Provigil for a long time and dindn't have to pay a penny for it.

100-200mg Provigil+ 225mg of Tianeptine worked wonders for me in 2007 but then it stopped working.
I didn't took Provigil for some months and perhaps it will work again in the future.

Provigil alone isn't enough to manage my symptoms...

I think I should stop Tianeptine for some months and than start to take it again.
Perhaps than I could benefit again from its psychostimulant properties.

I never tried Reboxetine.
I tried Strattera with bad results (depression/suicidility).

Wellbutrin gave me concentration and memory problems and didn't work well for depression.

Trivastal (Piribedil) wasn't good either (increased my need for Benzos and made me eat to much).

Mitrazapine was activating for me and restored memory and concentration (it increases dopamine and norepinephrine in the frontal cortex due to 5HT receptor antagonism).I had to quit due to weight gain.

I recently tried Agomelatine wich at some points is similar to mitrazapine (5ht antagonism/ increases dopamine in PFC) but it make me very miserable and agitatet.

I have lost my patience with drugs and can't wait to long till they "kick in".

I stopped agomelatine after 10 days yesterday and I feel better now.
It's not worth the hype but that's only my oppinion.
I'm not a representative sample.

I'M VERY ANGRY ABOUT THE SITUATION OF ADD ADULT SUFFERERS IN EUROPE.DOCTORS ARE IGNORING THE PROBLEM!
The situation is a little better in "rich" european countries (Germany,Switzerland,GB).
In "poor" southern Europe (Italy,Greece,Spain) there is practically no way for sufferers to get medication that is considered first-line treatment.


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