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Re: Not doing so well right now...but pushing, pushing

Posted by bleauberry on August 17, 2009, at 18:35:27

In reply to Not doing so well right now...but pushing, pushing, posted by uncouth on August 17, 2009, at 14:13:26


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> Luvox CR 200mg
> Aplenzin 344mg
> Namenda 5mg (tapering off)
> Lithium 200mg
> Rilutek 100mg
> Deplin 7.5mg
> Geodon 120mg

I feel so badly about the place you are. I wish I had some pharmaceutical advice, but what could suggest would be "perceived" as drastic.
That is, start over. That means ditch them all, one by one, with carefully managed tapering over a period of 3 to 6 months. Find out who the real person is hidden under all those meds. Find out what the real depression is versus the med induced state of mind.

A lot of people would probably scream at me for even thinking such a strategy. That's ok. I've seen it work a lot more often than the one you are pursuing...that is, changing one med or adding yet another.

If there is a med future for you, it should be ones completely different than anything you are on now. No more reuptake inhibitors. No more bizarre meds that no one even knows what they do...aka, wellbutrin, mood stabilizers, antipsychotics.

The low dose Lithium would be the only keeper, as that is actually...generally speaking...a rather healthy thing for the brain and body...at that dose.

Nardil and Parnate are keepers. As are a handful of life-style changes involving a food-choice overhaul with specific goals in mind, and a handful of specific targeted supplements or herbs, and a handful of "challenge" tests easily done with OTC products to see if you have something identifiable that has depression as a top symptom.

I don't preach what I don't do myself, and my history is longer and worse than yours. Just for reference. ECT failure here.

So I'm sorry I don't have much advice other than get off this bad ride and hitch a ride on a new one.

As a general observation of the last 15 years I've been here, I have witnessed that the people in the worst shape are usually the ones on the longest lists of meds. The odd thing is, they weren't that bad before the meds, but they don't see that. Spend a few dozen hours searching the archives here and this trend is quite pronounced.

There is something else causing your depression. It aint serotonin, norepinephrine, or dopamine. Biological, almost certainly. It is probably easier and cheaper than one knows to find out what it is and improve it. But that's a different topic.

If you are seeking spiritual connection with Jesus and God, that is awesome. I have heard of miraculous healing, but never seen it. I have felt unhuman strength to go forward, followed by wisdom to figure things out, but only when one turns to Him first, not to cures first. After all, one of the sins is to have other gods. We become so entrenched in our psychiatric world we view our meds as gods. If not gods, they are what occupies most of our thoughts and plans and feelings. That makes it hard to have a spiritual connection. He must come before all other things, and it is then He shows Himself. I believe the connection between us and Him is much stronger when the fewest things are standing in the way.


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