Posted by djmmm on April 4, 2003, at 9:39:03
In reply to Re: To djmmm, posted by denise528 on April 4, 2003, at 3:59:18
> Hi,
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> Thanks for that, it's really helpful. Still dithering about whether or not to start taking them today, my Mum will go mad if I do, she was in hysterics yesterday after reading the literature.
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> Do you know if it would be ok to have the ocassional bacardi/vodka and coke with these drugs, also whatabout Zyprexa?
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> DeniseForm personal experience ONLY, I would say it is safe to consume moderate amounts of alcohol (Rum, Vodka, etc). Stay away from Sherry, and tap beer (although I have never had a problem with either.)
currently the updated list is:
Aged cheese
• Aged or cured meats (e.g., air-dried sausage)
• Any potentially spoiled meat, poultry, or fish
• Broad (fava) bean pods
• Marmite concentrated yeast extract
• Sauerkraut
• Soy sauce and soy bean condiments
• Tap beer"... Because many of the items in lists of foods to avoid are not based on scientific evidence, a recent review systematically evaluated the literature to formulate an MAOI diet which was practical for patients to adhere to. The restriction of all aged cheeses is recommended since it has been documented that many of these cheeses have dangerously high levels of tyramine. As well, any dishes made with these cheeses (e.g., lasagna or pizza) are to be avoided. However, fresh cottage cheese, cream cheese, ricotta and processed cheese contain little or no tyramine. It is also recommended that fermented or dry sausage (e.g., pepperoni, salami, mortadella) be avoided."
"Sauerkraut and marmite concentrated yeast extract have an extremely high tyramine content per serving and need to be avoided. Other yeast extracts such as brewer's yeast are considered safe. Soy sauce and other soybean preparations may contain high tyramine levels, whereas soy milk has low levels in a normal serving. Other foods to be avoided include fava or broad bean pods (not beans) and banana peel. Restriction of banana pulp, peanuts, chocolate, avocados and raspberries is UNNECESSARY. Because of the high levels of tyramine found in an analysis of tap beer, all tap beers should be avoided. Other than this absolute restriction, domestic bottled or canned beers (including non-alcoholic beers) and red or white wines are permissible; however, daily intake should be limited to two servings (e.g., one wine serving = 125 mL glass)."http://www.pharmacyconnects.com/content/phpractice/1996/06-96/f22_features.html
*The cheese used for "fast-food" chain Pizza is FINE..and has been removed form the list.
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